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Vice had one of my favorite pieces of internet content ever, maybe this is a business lesson about "stick to the knitting" or something... "stick to the pointy Mexican boots"

http://web.archive.org/web/20230128213354/https://www.vice.c...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veQkt4tS0Tc



Not only that, but Vice produced some of the highest quality, and only "mildly western-biased" reporting we have seen from world events.

See the 100+ dispatches from Ukraine 2014 mostly by Kamil Ostrovsky.[1]

But with time the amount of content by Vice literally exploded in magnitudes, and so did the quality of content and journalism.

Don't get me wrong, Vice still produced many other interesting contents, but eventually it has been so watered down by so many types of content that finding relevant or quality journalism became very difficult.

I wish they stuck with their initial spirit of focusing on quality reporting and content from around the world (NK, Ukraine, Africa etc), they would've built a terrific journalistic niche for themselves. A niche that I can't find anyone to be able to fill.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNKsLlK52ss


Slight correction: Simon Ostrovsky

Fwiw he seems to be not very impressed with Vice's management https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/165319938725684019...


Simon Ostrovsky :) And yes, Russian Roulette is amazing.


highest quality, sure... You probably don't mean things like this, right

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mgbx9q/how-to-make-breakfast...

Appears catering only to millenials wasn't the best idea.


I may have expressed myself poorly, what I meant is that their interesting and quality reporting quickly became rarer among the huge amount of articles like the one you posted.

I guess that they tried to go for the click baity route of odd content to get more views, a route that is full of competition and has a hard time retaining recurrent readers.

I would've preferred they stuck with building a (definitely more expensive) niche of journalism in the spirit they were initially founded.


What does making breakfast with someone's vagina have to do with a specific generation, the youngest members of which were already working or in college when that particular article came out, and the oldest members of which were raising their own adolescents? Why does everything weird and alternative still automatically get labeled as "millenial" stuff?


The comments here really make you lose faith in our ability to communicate as a society. So many comments about Vice having become "too left"/"not moderate" where I'm uncertain with the examples where the line is between the writer expecting something super right as moderate or if I myself am way left. Otherwise ok comments arbitrary grouping and sigmatizing people. I think we've almost reached a complete breakdown in our ability to communicate with each other, at least in written form.


I am a millennial. Please don't cater this to me in any way, shape or form.


If you read or watched Vice News cca. 2014-2018, there was indeed plenty of high quality journalism. What’s that article got to do with it? And why do you think it caters to millenials specifically?


Their original content was Dos and Donts. You think that was quality? You don't know what Vice is.


Stop shitting over everyone with this obscure fact. When people hear vice they think their heyday of video content. You’re not cool or in the know for correcting people who are discussing this (the thing that made them famous in the first place.)


I have the book! Not sure it’s easily obtainable these days since McInnes is a persona-non grata.


Eddie Huang did a street food series with them that was also fantastic called Huang's World. I'm pretty sure it used to be called something else. What I liked about Vice was it all felt very unpolished. Huang, nonplussed, hangs with famous pornstar Jada Stevens while she's doing a shoot on the Bang Bus. That behind the scenes vibe dominated Vice video for a long time extending to their war coverage.


Funny because before Disney, akwafina was just hanging around with Eddie Huang on vice. Now she’s in all sorts of Disney stuff. I guess getting in bed w/ disney means you’ll die and disney will pick the morsels it likes


That was prime VICE




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