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>Well, not quite; it is like charging a child with breaking & entering because snuck into his teacher's house through a window to play a prank.

Which is again BS. Kids used to do all that and much more when America was a freer country, with not much more than a smack at the back...



and look where that has led... the lack of notable consequences for ones actions tend to lead you down the path of "I'll do whatever I please because the only real consequences are a slap on the wrist," or rather "I know my rights and with a competent lawyer, I'll get off anyway, I don't really care how that affects you or anyone else." There appears to be little empathy for how one's actions affect everyone around you, with everyone looking out for themselves and feeling like the country somehow owes them something.

Fair enough this was a prank, and sure, we all used to do a lot more... and these days you can't let your kids run free without the police picking them up on their way to or at the park and attempting to charge the parents with criminal neglect. There is little that makes sense about any of this.


When talking about social changes, "look where that has led..." is definitely a good argument... in a bar, not in a serious conversation.

This kind of event is simply caused by the excessive increase of policing, and the political profit of such events; it's not a really special or complex phenomenon.

The major consequence is a context which supports excessive penalties for people, in which unreasonable laws, vampire prosecutors and self-obsessed politicians prosper. Proceedings like this are a product of all the above - in the era of cyberwar, the government turned even minor incidents are into major crimes, in order to make an example, and to get the political monopoly on cyberoffense; such cases are quite common.

Wherever the excessive increase of policing comes... well, that definitely is a complex and special phenomenon, but I guess it's off topic.


> and look where that has led...

I'd like to see a reliable source on that. The cultural differences with most countries in western-Europe certainly don't seem to support your assertions.


>and look where that has led...

In societies much safer, saner and less violent, back in the days when what I desribed used to be the case (30's, 40's, 50's, 60's etc)?


LOL we used to run free even in the 80's and 90's. Back then society was no safer, it's just we didn't have the media pumping fear into us every day. It's ridiculous how cooped up kids are becoming with parents expected to supervise (or even have someone else to supervise) their kids every minute of every day. That's not helping. Kids need time to themselves to find themselves and learn to stand alone.


This seems like rose-coloured glasses.





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