I realize this might normally qualify as a throw-away comment on HN, but, "Good grief!"

People who aren't familiar should take a look: I hadn't realized how bad it's gotten.

People like my mother (just helping her the other day) would be totally stymied by this. And... I guess I can be glad my sister just got a Mac.

(Speaking of which, why is there an ad for "Free Zip for Mac" on a page for a .NET dependent Windows program?)