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As long as Mozilla products do not feature a "Not to be used by gays" warning, whatever Eich does in his time is irrelevant. He's free to spend his money in any way he likes. What prevented the authors of this article to spend $1000 to counterbalance Eich's contribution if they are so concerned?



> whatever Eich does in his time is irrelevant

Of course it isn't.

If he was backdooring JS crypto libraries for the NSA, or shooting orphans, or selling crack, that would be seriously inappropriate behaviour and he would lose his job for it.

Many people might consider it inappropriate to be fighting against gay marriage - it's not just a political issue, it's a moral one.


Many people might consider it inappropriate to be fighting against gay marriage - it's not just a political issue, it's a moral one.

Yet, we are forcing everyone to take a stand on this "moral" issue.


No one is being forced to take a stand. Eich chose to take his own stand by donating $1000 in support of Prop 8. It is completely fair to judge him for that action.


How is everyone being forced to take a stand? People who don't care don't have to do anything.


Here is how I interpret it. If today Brendan says he will pick No Opinion to "Should Bills of Rights be included in the Constitution of the United States", then should he be held accountable for his decision?

He can either support Bills of Rights, against Bills of Rights, or he can do nothing about it, in which case is pretty much in the same camp as the opposition. The only difference is he chose to not care and yet he will probably be judged for not helping human rights. And human rights, to many is a worthwhile ethic cause. Not an individual morality debate; just as gay advocates would think gay rights is a basic right of human. If Brendan chose to say "I have no opinion" he is neither against nor supporting gay rights but his decision will disappoint the gay advocates in which case the advocates will not be happy with Mozilla. Therefore, everyone has to take a stand even if it were "I don't have any opinion."


Backdooring his employer's code would be directly related to his work, and illegal actions on his own time would make him unemployable if caught and convicted, because he'd go to prison. False equivalances, all.


OK, if you need to picky, something more comparable. Imagine he said: "black people are inferior to white people and don't deserve to be happy".


FYI: You are responding to a troll.


It's certainly illegal to fire someone over that opinion, yes.


It depends entirely on his contract - I'd expect most CEOs to have a clause about their conduct causing harm to the organisation. Even if not, it's legal to convince someone to leave, which is what usually happens in public embarrassment cases.


It's illegal to discriminate against someone on the basis of their political stance. Nothing you can say will ever change that.


If that were true, no congressperson could ever staff an office. Or a campaign.


If a Republican wanted to work for a Democrat, and if he were denied employment for that reason alone, that would be illegal, yes.


I don't know where you're getting this idea from, but you really should check your sources.

There is a limited prohibition against screening for political affiliations enforced by the Federal government when filling certain civil service positions, but that's about it.

For a good summary of what types of discrimination can and cannot trigger legal liability, see here:

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html


No it's not. Indeed, you run a legal risk in NOT firing such a person given that keeping them around (especially in a senior position) creates a demonstrably hostile work environment.


Another comparable example: He donated 10,000 to the Nazi party.


That would be a hell of an accomplishment, seeing as how the Nazi Party hasn't existed for more than half a century.



That is not the Nazi Party though, is it?


For the purposes of the parent's argument, it's just fine. And you know it.


That's a terrible semantic argument. Of course it's not the actual Nazi Party, but if the Mozilla CEO donated $1000 to the ANP people would be pretty angry.


> What prevented the authors of this article to spend $1000 to counterbalance Eich's contribution if they are so concerned?

So only people who pay for their rights deserve them. Noted.


Irrespective of the proposition in question, Mr Eich debited $1000 to the influence of politics. His financial position gives him more political leverage than myself.

Bang on, you read my mind.


Helloooo... This is in USA. Does the word "lobbying" ring a bell?


Lobbying is fine. After all, a representative government can't function if talking to your representatives is a crime.

The problem is not the right to deliver petitions. It's the practice of doing so with cash (or check!) included.


Huh, lobbying, in my view, these days is nothing but paying people lots of money to steer their decisions... Otherwise why bother doing it...


Because it's not about the $1000 (and you didn't honestly think it was.)

With your prescription of discriminated against minorities offsetting the donations of bigots to parties who would fortify or extend that discrimination, gay people would also have to worry about bankruptcy. There's at least 5 bigots for each gay person.


It's only a matter of time. Maybe universal gay marriage will not be achieved in my lifetime but it will be achieved. If people have power to bring it closer with their efforts or monetary contributions - they are welcome to do so, but it is still quite inevitable. This topic might hold relevance and controversy for now, but ultimately - it is not. Just another footnote in history.


> What prevented the authors of this article to spend $1000 to counterbalance Eich's contribution if they are so concerned?

Outrage is cheaper and gets more attention. Kinda like when a toddler throws a tantrum.


Depending on their sales it may not be cheaper.


> What prevented the authors of this article to spend $1000 to counterbalance Eich's contribution if they are so concerned?

Who says they didn't?


And if they did - good for them.

Did Eich imply that he wants special treatment because he donated - probably not.

Do the authors imply that they want special treatment because of this - it looks to me that way.

Again, they are free and welcome to boycott whomever they wish.


> Did Eich imply that he wants special treatment because he donated - probably not.

I'd say he likely wants special treatment for his particular brand of religious views.

> Do the authors imply that they want special treatment because of this - it looks to me that way.

What special treatment are they requesting?




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