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Music is way too important in my life to temporarily rent it from some company that may or may not be around or even have the same content available in a few years.


Well said. I've been meticulously maintaining a single audio collection for years now; sometimes I wonder why I do it. But what you said sums it up nicely.


Google Music has an "upload your own music" feature (up to 10k songs free! That's 500 CDs and for anyone who isn't in the music making profession I can't imagine needing more). It ends up being a sort of dropbox-like mechanism (you can download as many times to your phone, only 3 times to your computer though).

In case of failure of Google I still have a decent amount of music on my phone and I do have the stuff on my phone. In the (much more) likely case of drive failure I can get my music again (I could even circumvent the download limit through a Google->phone->PC thing but that would be a pain).

I think it's important not to overestimate your personal capacity to not lose things compared to companies like Google (especially considering that I am not aware of many companies that fell off the face of the earth in less than 24 hours for you to lose all your data)

edit: google music player on android is pretty annoying though (just slightly better than the stock player from old android). The fact that you need a data connection to play a random mix of your music startles me.


The minute Google converts one of my flacs to 320kbps mp3s the file is lost. I don't want to circumvent anything in order to have access to my data. Why does it startle you? When you don't pay for something you are the product. I would be more surprised if google gave you all this great music and did not expect anything in return.


>The minute Google converts one of my flacs to 320kbps mp3s the file is lost. Only lost if the file is lost on your end too.

>I don't want to circumvent anything in order to have access to my data.

If you're an audiophile/actually doing things with the raw files, then this is not for you, but for most people (read: 99% of people) the diff between 320kbps mp3 and flacs is not there.

> Why does it startle you? When you don't pay for something you are the product. I would be more surprised if google gave you all this great music and did not expect anything in return.

Sure, I don't care about sending my music usage stats(hell I already do it publicly with last.fm) but at least have an option when my data connection is down.


The difference will exist at some point in the future when I want to convert those flacs/mp3s to a new lossy format for some reason (e.g. when the only place you can buy an mp3 player is in an antique shop). Then when my great grandson wants to listen to my music, and you can't even buy a player for whatever that format was.


The link that started this discussion is about an open source CLI based music manager. Beets boasts about its numerous features that work with mpd. We have not been talking about music management for the 99% for a while now.


Your description of Google Music makes it sound awful and completely unusable.

It does take a bit of effort to manage my own music collection, but I feel like I am well protected against data loss by having it synced between a NAS, external server, and Crash Plan. 90% of my listening is done via the external server running Subsonic, using both the web interface and the excellent mobile app iSub. I also try to always pick up a vinyl at live shows since they are big and nice to look at (and occasionally listen to), and usually come with a free mp3 download.

There are no limits on how many times I can access my music files. I can access them any way that I please, from pretty much any device, forever. I couldn't have it any other way with my music collection.


and its more work. Obviously your solution is more durable (mainly due to owning all the pieces), but then again your solution is also more durable than something like Dropbox.

This is a halfway solution for people who are not necessarily good at backups. And I get to listen to the music on the web interface or on my phone (which is basically all I care about). Maybe I'm an awful person, but I greatly prefer this to the USB/SD card shenanigans of yore.


Last time I uploaded my own music, it replaced all of the "explicit" songs with the censored songs, it really tuned me off to the product.


Many people who aren't professional music anything listen to music during working hours. Thats ~ 2000 hours a year. Your 500 cds, ~ 500 hours. I think you sorely lack imagination.


I was kind of the same, but the realization that I was a media hoarder came when I was designing a media server for myself where I could access my media anywhere -- and the thought struck me that I was essentially just rebuilding a lot of the on-demand paid services out there, just with less media.

Been using Google Music ever since.


You can always rent and buy.

I'd be nervous buying DRM'd content from a supplier that may not be around in the future. But renting I could care less - unless I paid for years upfront - but you generally don't do that.




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