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"And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time."

Nothing more need be said, really. This is the very definition of character and integrity.



And this as well: "I begged Steve that we donate the first Apple I to a woman who took computers into elementary schools but he made my buy it and donate it myself."


Unfortunately business pushes these kinds of people out. At the top of the ladder are those with high measures of psychopathy and those who inherited the keys to the throne. All the good guys find something else to do to pass their days.


"And $10M was a lot in that time."

I love this. Classic Steve Wozniak humor.


Waz was the 1% before it was cool.


before it wasn't cool.


If only we could celebrate that kind of integrity on the par with brilliant salesmanship. Think a world without Jobs, or a world without Woz, which one is a sadder place?


The world needed both.


That is not the answer to the question that I had asked. The question is, if you have to choose, which world would be the sadder place? World without Jobs or world without Woz?

The reason to ask that question is because it gives a clue, which person and which principles we ought to celebrate more.


Maybe it was the wrong question to ask.

Why does either need to be celebrated more? Vision and perseverance, determination and resolve, integrity and magnanimity are all culturally celebrated virtues.

To honor one man while denying the other is to ignore part of what made that endeavor the success it was.


Well said.


I don't know. I've seen real damage done by somebody trying to imitate mercurial and ruthless aspects of Jobs. And let me remind you that Jobs was not afraid of telling direct lies to his partners "... Jobs told him that Atari gave them only $700 (instead of the offered $5,000), and that Wozniak's ...". I really really don't know....


^^ This is exactly why we at least need to talk about both men when trying to emulate the Apple phenomenon. Probably a few others from the last decade as well. Apple didn't happen because of Jobs (full stop).

Jobs was but one part, and emulating only him will leave almost anyone miserable, despised, lonely and broke.


What I want to know is when do we get a movie about Woz?


Can we all demand a Woz movie?



I've never backed anything on Kickstarter yet, nothing's caught my eye, but an iWoz film would be a great way to get into the whole crowdfunding thing.

He's a great engineer, but unfortunately for big-budget film-makers, isn't a name that'll draw people into the box office.


Woz deserves recognition, lets do it guy.


If Pay It Forward can make it big, so could iWoz. I mean, his life has had all sorts of drama, and yet it's a really heartwarming story. If done right, it could be a truly great film of tech and humanity.


Can it also have space dinosaurs in it. Like, real space dinosaurs. From space.


Picket outside Apple stores until there's a movie?


Not a movie but there's more about Woz in here than anyone else...

http://www.stevenlevy.com/index.php/books/hackers


Well, there's a more accurate movie about Jobs being planned, for which Woz is a consultant: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/01/13/briefly-aaron-sork...

Screenwriter is Aaron Sorkin - he also wrote the screenplay for The Social Network.


They did show that in "Pirates of Silicon Valley" !


They alluded to it in one scene I believe, while Jobs in the movie is taking to his ex girlfriend on the phone at a banquet, Woz talks tell Jobs that they should give stocks to the early guys.


And there is the scene where Woz tells Jobs that he'd given them some of his own stocks (or similar). I was watching "Jobs", and was shocked that it was not in there. Very poor portrayal. Pirates was much more balanced.


10M might be more than I make in my lifetime




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