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I find it a little offensive that because I agree with a certain law it means my morality is dictated by the state. I'm sorry that I believe that if you're a repeat offender who just hacked a computer system and made off with nearly a million dollars in fraudulent credit card transactions you should go to prison. I haven't yet decided whether or not I think 10 years is too long for that.


I think if you believe people should go to prisons, your morality is dictated by the state.

If you find that offensive, maybe you should make an effort to clear your cached thoughts[0], and recompute everything you think about prisons. If you haven't done this at least once in your life, it's probable that you have a thought in your cache that was just inserted there by some authority figure while you were young enough not to know better.

[0] http://lesswrong.com/lw/k5/cached_thoughts/


this quote is from memory, so the wording will be off, but...

"It was as if the human brain had a blind spot, and someone had written on it in permanent ink, 'Kings. What a good idea.'"

I believe it's from the Discworld book Guards! Guards!; I always loved that imagery.


"I find it a little offensive that because I agree with a certain law it means my morality is dictated by the state."

You misunderstand, and from there you argue based on your misunderstanding. No one is saying that just because you agree with a certain "law it means [your] morality is dictated by the state.", rather, your morality just happens to overlap with the state, meaning you are past that stage of moral development (at least regarding that particular issue).

Also, your claim of offense and then your sarcastic apology don't do anything to further the conversation, avoid such rhetorical sub-tactics in the future.


In the future you ought to avoid telling people how to communicate their thoughts. I didn't ask for your advice and from what I can tell you understood my point. To me that looks like successful communication.


> made off with nearly a million dollars

Why do you state-defenders feel the need to make up and exaggerate facts.




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