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No.

Our world is a thousand times more complex than that of even the 1800's. It used to be that your average young man/woman was in one unskilled job for their entire life. One you could learn by the time you were 15-16. This is no longer the case.

Even entry level office jobs jobs now require an understanding of calculus, statistics, excel, etc. When all that used to be required was knowing how to plow a field, recite wives tales or run a loom.

It isn't as simple as "oh our education system is too slow".



"Even entry level office jobs jobs now require an understanding of calculus, statistics, excel, etc."

This is simply not true. Entry-level office jobs require a piece of paper saying "this dude knows calculus"; they don't actually require the knowledge. If you don't believe me, visit an average office, go around, and ask people to take the derivative of sin(x)*x^2; this is a fairly simple problem which any first-semester calculus student would know how to solve.


Perhaps you meant sin(x)+x^2?


No. Just use the product rule. The derivative is

x^2 cos(x) + 2 x sin(x)

Finding derivatives is actually really easy. There are just a few simple rules you have to apply deterministically to any problem, and the answer will pop out.


I think his point was to suggest a simpler question. Do you really think most "entry-level office workers" remember the product rule?


I believe the whole point of proposing a calculus question was that most entry-level office workers won't be able to answer it.


As I mention above, I bet they wouldn't be able to answer an even simpler question. Requiring application of product rule "raises the bar" a bit too high.


I'm not sure why this is modded down so far, as it raises a good point. If you ask the average entry-level office tech to differentiate x^2 with respect to x, it is likely that they will not even know that. Throw in the product rule, and all bets are off. (I am embarrassed to admit that I had to quickly look at MathWorld to make sure I hadn't misremembered it.)


Show me an entry level office job posting/ad where calculus is a requirement ...


You're missing the point.

Technical learning of any sort (looms or calculus) is really the least important consequence of schooling - if it takes 20 years, fine.

The fundamental error is to assume that socialization (for which nearly all humans are genetically optimized) and training in symbolic methods (for which most humans are rather ill-suited) should proceed apace.


Do you know how to run a loom or plow a field? Maybe oddly, but I consider those much more a skill than knowledge of how to use excel.


Yes and yes. A loom is actually sort of neat. They're the first programable computers. A plow on the other hand is dull and difficult work.

Both are simpler than excel even for their more advanced uses.


I would say yes, the plow is much more simple than excel. However, I disagree that the loom is too. You can do amazing things with a loom if you take the time to learn the complexities of the machine.




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