>I'm 29 and already experiencing age discrimination. I'm losing callbacks because I have "too many jobs" (which is basically a legal, back-door age discrimination although it's about the cynicism and "disruptive" expertise that come with "job hopping", not chronological years)
well, to the best of my knowledge, at twenty nine, you are not in a protected class. the age protected class is 45 and up, I believe.
I'm skeptical of this idea that you face age discrimination before 30. It doesn't line up with any of the statistical data, and it certainly doesn't line up with any of my anecdotal data. (I'm older than you are, but not by a whole lot.) I mean, I could be wrong, of course, but that's below the median age, most places I've worked. (I mean, if you are talking specifically about web-startups that are still in the startup phase, then that's old. but that's a pretty small percentage of the job market. It takes a whole lot of web startups to make one yahoo in terms of number of engineering jobs. And generally speaking, the startups pay shit, so they get young workers trying to get their foot in the door, young workers who move up and out to the larger companies that pay more.)
Maybe you just have higher standards than I do? I mean, I thought getting paid six figures as a unix janitor in an area where that salary means I live in a condo (or buy during the downturns; the median santa clara county single family home last year was two hundred thousand dollars cheaper than the median single family home this year. Last year, median was a reasonable half-million.) means I'm doing pretty good. I mean, yeah, if you want to make millions of dollars a year, you are going to be on something of an accelerated schedule.
On the other hand, I haven't seriously tried to get a full-time job working for someone else for several years now, so maybe I'm just not seeing it.
well, to the best of my knowledge, at twenty nine, you are not in a protected class. the age protected class is 45 and up, I believe.
I'm skeptical of this idea that you face age discrimination before 30. It doesn't line up with any of the statistical data, and it certainly doesn't line up with any of my anecdotal data. (I'm older than you are, but not by a whole lot.) I mean, I could be wrong, of course, but that's below the median age, most places I've worked. (I mean, if you are talking specifically about web-startups that are still in the startup phase, then that's old. but that's a pretty small percentage of the job market. It takes a whole lot of web startups to make one yahoo in terms of number of engineering jobs. And generally speaking, the startups pay shit, so they get young workers trying to get their foot in the door, young workers who move up and out to the larger companies that pay more.)
Maybe you just have higher standards than I do? I mean, I thought getting paid six figures as a unix janitor in an area where that salary means I live in a condo (or buy during the downturns; the median santa clara county single family home last year was two hundred thousand dollars cheaper than the median single family home this year. Last year, median was a reasonable half-million.) means I'm doing pretty good. I mean, yeah, if you want to make millions of dollars a year, you are going to be on something of an accelerated schedule.
On the other hand, I haven't seriously tried to get a full-time job working for someone else for several years now, so maybe I'm just not seeing it.