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What is it about then? I see only one reason for a person to be locked up:

1- He poses a threat to society and should be removed, as not to endanger others.

Prison it is not about education, it is not about rehabilitation. It is required to keep dangerous individuals from causing further harm (the other option would be the capital punishment).

Prisons are also used as punishment, but that's a side-effect. There are other ways of having a non-violent (or no longer violent) person repay his debt to society.

Putting people in prison for anything other than physical violence is ridiculous.

In this case, there was likely violence involved, but we do not have details, so I'll refrain from trying to apply the reasoning to this case.



>> "Prisons are also used as punishment, but that's a side-effect. There are other ways of having a non-violent (or no longer violent) person repay his debt to society."

Is this accurate? Depriving someone of normal civilian rights seems pretty punitive to me. And regarding other ways for people to repay their debts to societies: I'm interested in hearing what else we could be doing with these people.


Well, if you will allow wikipedia quotes:

>For most of history, imprisoning has not been a punishment in itself, but rather a way to confine criminals until corporal or capital punishment was administered.

> I'm interested in hearing what else we could be doing with these people.

"These people" casts a very wide net.

My personal point of view: any time that someone is convicted because of material/monetary damages, this individual should not be locked up. He should be paying for that in some other way. Some other way could be with labor - or simple fines.

Violent crimes, on the other hand, are a different matter. Take the China or the US approach, I don't particularly care, as I want those people removed from the society the fastest way possible.

This case in particular is pretty severe, as it involved firearms and threatening people. I do not have much sympathy for the guy because of that. However, since he was released, his criminal record should be sealed. After all, if he was released, then he is assumed to have "paid off" his debt and also presumed non-violent.

Either let people really pay for their crimes or keep them locked up indefinitely. Releasing unemployable people is not a good thing to do. If anything, this person is now much more likely to commit crimes, as legal work opportunities are greatly reduced. Not to mention living with other criminals for most of his adult life...


Traditionally, there are three reasons for locking people up:

- punishment: you did something bad, so you should suffer.

- revenge: you did something bad to me; I'll be happy to see you suffer.

- prevention: you did something bad; to prevent you from repeating that (for a while), we'll lock you up.

Perhaps surprisingly, "paying back one's debt to society" does not figure here. Also, why do you think punishment would be paying back one's debts?


What do you propose we do about a man who kills his wife (or some other enemy) over a long held grudge and poses exactly zero threat to anyone else?




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