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But this person did not even have a gun in his hand. He had a gun on him, concealed. In fact, the video shows another ICE agent walking up to him and digging it out and taking it away. The execution happened after all of that.

The most likely situation is that he actually voluntarily told them that he has a firearm because he is a lawful gun owner with a concealed carry permit. Most gun owners know that this is the best way to interact with law-enforcement, for example, when you get pulled over. But we will not know because these agents do not wear body cams on purpose.





Oh, I completely agree in addition to murdering this man they violated his second amendment rights and will continue to violate them in justifying his murder.

ICE is not law enforcement any more, they are terrorist killer commandos now.

They're Nazi death squads. I've been screaming for a decade that this would be coming and now it's here. Update your threat modeling accordingly.

The writing was on the wall with the Patriot Act. “When we say you’re a terrorist, you lose all rights and protections” is merely a gradual difference to what is happening now.

Could downvoters explain why this is incorrect?

To me, this looks very much like testing the waters. Stephen Miller said, "To all ICE officers, you have federal immunity." ICE has blocked state law enforcement from investigations into the killings. ICE has said they're done with their investigation of the last one, and those fuckers are still working.

Aside from scale, what's the difference?

[EDIT:15-minute chunk of] video that lays out the evidence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThhm1-g1a8


Killer Commandos loyal to DJT.

>The most likely situation is that he actually voluntarily told them that he has a firearm because he is a lawful gun owner with a concealed carry permit. Most gun owners know that this is the best way to interact with law-enforcement, for example, when you get pulled over. But we will not know because these agents do not wear body cams on purpose.

People have differing opinions, however the opinion most persuasive to me is you only tell them if asked unless the law requires otherwise. Volunteering you have a gun when there is no requirement to do so in my opinion adds unnecessary tension to the situation. IDK about in Minnesota, but in my state there is no duty to inform the police and you can basically only downsides to doing so, since they will be asking before you get into any situation where they're going to be going into your waistband to find out.

In one of the states I lived in, IIRC they changed the law to remove duty to inform because their cops had a history of executing people that informed them.




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