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I can't imagine that any company executive thinks the solution to the new H1-B visa is going to be outsource more employees (if they are a US Based company). That would be the antithesis of this administration and I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't stiffer penalties for companies that tried to do this.


Well, this is the end result. $100K per filing has now given every company a metric with which to benchmark whether they should open a GCC (an offshore office with P/L and Product Roadmap responsibilities) or continue to hire a mix of citizens and foreigners domestically.

If having to file for 10 H1B visas now costs the same as the amount of FDI needed to get $10-20k per head of tax subsidies and credits across CEE and India, the math to open an office abroad just became justified for every business.


Listen - I'm not saying that that isn't the logical response. I'm saying I don't see how an executive would go ahead with that plan thinking that there weren't going to be worse repercussions for their company from the government if they went that route.

The smallest companies that don't have visibility in the market maybe could try and do it (dangerous risk) but the larger companies that have a lot to lose from headline risk will be at significant risk.

Like the executive who only thinks in short term budget will go ahead and do this -- the executives who think maybe 2-4 years down the road will realize its a trap.


> but the larger companies that have a lot to lose from headline risk will be at significant risk

Google [0], Microsoft [1], and Amazon [2] have continued to make headline making investments abroad despite Trump being in office.

And these size of companies are large enough that they can eat the litigation cost, becuase it is significantly cheaper to completely offshore.

And in all honesty, the Trump glare isn't severe. You become part of the media zeitgeist for a couple of days, and then everyone moves on to some other controversy. Look at how this now overshadows the US-Korea snafu, which itself overshadowed the Russian oil snafu, which itself overshadowed ....

[0] - https://blog.google/intl/en-in/company-news/welcome-to-anant...

[1] - https://news.microsoft.com/en-in/microsoft-announces-us-3bn-...

[2] - https://www.aboutamazon.in/news/aws/aws-invests-8-billion-in...


Those plans were already in place as a continuation and during a time when they thought tech would have a more coveted space in policy positioning. Watch what happens going forward -- they will re-plan investments (at least for the time being).


They’re all already doing this and doing it more will go unnoticed


Yeah kinda hard to see companies being more aggressive than they already are about outsourcing. I know companies that fired their entire tech org from the CTO down and moved it to India.


When I was looking for work early this year I was told that most of the Google NYC roles were listed for internal transfers and that most of the actual hiring was in Warsaw (with 1000s of open roles, which I was told by Google recruiters at a conference in Europe)


This is true for most SV tech companies with multiple offices (including nyc) because there are a shitload of men trying to move out of SF.

Post-pandemic most single men in Silicon Valley have realized that the region is terrible for anything but settling down with a family.


If someone is transferring from SF to NYC they wouldn't have to advertise the position. I think the OP is referring to transferring people into the country on L1.


I was told that they were actually required to list them even if it’s someone transferring internally.

It was for a few specific ML research roles that I was interested in, of which there were very few in NYC and during the interview process I was told that they would go to internal candidates


Especially because they need to be in the same office for collaboration. Right?




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