Came here legally, speak English, embrace American culture, appreciate the police keeping my neighborhood safe, support faith, etc. There's nearly hundred percent alignment with my values. Surprised this is so surprising. Like I said there's millions of people like me.
Surely the poster is allowed to be Republican and an immigrant? They didn't even say they voted for Trump. Eg, if they're fiscally conservative and strongly anti-abortion, they may find that they are best aligned with the Republican party, despite being an immigrant.
I think I agree with your political views, and that makes me sad. It would be easier to believe in "my" party if this sort of stupidity wasn't so blatant.
I don't mind and of course just being a Republican is controversial enough in an online community.
The ridiculous thing is that people actually don't have the world view / awareness that is compatible with the physical reality of a ton of immigrants being Republicans and Trump supporters - and things shifting even more this way as of the last election.
It's ridiculous both because of your opinion doesn't cover that reality then you obviously can't understand because you can't even imagine - and also if you are really trying to fight it then you need to be real about what's happening.
Perhaps the idea is the post must be false, since nobody would support a party so opposed to their own interests. Otoh that's how left wing politics has worked since the 70s..
Neither. I am an open minded individual who's traveled the world, and am a dual citizen, highly educated, highly intelligent and successful:)
And naturally I was a Democrat through 2016, but as Democrats moved left they left me behind on a lot of issues. And then the fact that your side is now like "you are evil or stupid if you don't agree with us" (eg your post) makes any re-engagement impossible.
You seem like a really thoughtful person from your non political posting history but this is clearly such a trigger topic. I know it's not just you but it's really unattractive.
What issues do you feel left behind on? And why do you think the Democratic Party has moved left on them?
The mistake I think you're making is that people want to reengage with the fascists that call themselves Republicans or that their political beliefs are legitimate. Your party is letting an authoritarian president tear our rule of law, customs, institutions, economy, and people apart - and it gets worse everyday. There is no engagement with the insanity that is MAGA.
If you just want an example, I have many friends and family who are gay or trans. Republicans don't believe they should be allowed to exist, and at the extreme ends, advocate violence against them. Why should I pretend that there's any engagement possible on that angle, when one "side" is inherently violent?
As I alluded to in my prior comment - the fact that you are so ready to call people insane fascists (or in prior post, dumb or evil) is the end of the conversation.
Wherever you live in the US, at least 1 out of 3 of your neighbors voted for Trump. That's a lot of random people to call fascist.
Ok let me give you a richer answer. You ascribe to Republicans (so, to me) a belief that gays or trans shouldn't exist. Just like earlier you ascribed to us/me a hatred of immigrants.
These are (1) NOT MY VIEWS and (2) views I don't hear from actual Republicans.
If someone told me they hated immigrants or gays or trans I would tell them to fuck off and never speak to them again.
So what do I do with the fact that people like you easily ascribe horrific views to others and then consider them worthy of the Nuremberg trials? Doesn't leave much room to join your team does it.
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