Any demo so we can try it?

You should have learned something from the Sesame AI demo and the hype it generated for them.

for elevenlabs in general, pricing too high. if we put the price to punch ratio of kokoro at 100, elevenlabs is probably a 35

He's a "Growth Engineer" from ElevenLabs. I'm not sure what that entails, but then I'm not familiar with that area of tech, so maybe someone else can explain it.