When you use the word "our", it's supposed to refer to US citizens. Once a person is a citizen, they are a part of this group. To want to denaturalize anyone means your quest is not rooted in a rational separation of who belongs and who doesn't. Maybe someone will want to denaturalize you and show you the door just the same, so how about that.
None of those concerns typically apply with regard to international workers gaining citizenship. Practically all of them gain them lawfully, and with great difficulty too. For all intents and purposes, it is irrelevant to the matter at hand of employment of citizens. The point is the laws of revocation of naturalization alone will not get you or me a better job.
In contrast, just the simple act of eliminating non-PhD work visas could fix the situation, but politicians work for corporations, not for the people.
I don't disagree with that. Though some did lie on their resumes to get jobs to attain the visas, AI could be used to flag unworthy recent citizens that committed fraud from overseas to attain their citizenship. My wife immigrated without committing fraud and is even more New Right than I am, so there's that. She wants this country preserved, and improved. Not overwhelmed and ultimately degraded. People make a place, and changing those people will change the place. It's how the world works.
I would also be willing to accept alternatives, such as the creation of a new Protected Class. Settler Status, which would be granted to all children from a direct paternal line going back to the American Revolution or before for the descendants of native Americans who at that time were from Europe, and did the actual sacrifice of pioneering the wild and settled the land. If you believe new immigrants experienced hardship, try Pennsylvania in 1750. Today an immigrant that faces "hardship" as you put it, is soft as a feather. Just taking advantage of this country without truly contributing. Again, Google might be happy but my concern is not Google Inc. If those with Settler Status were granted permanent job preference over non-Settler Status individuals, that would rectify the injustice and abuse of our legal immigration system, and the blind eye towards illegal immigration.
The way they usually get a job is by first getting higher education in the US, so lying on the resume of any experience abroad doesn't really factor in. The job is mainly on the basis of the domestic education, not the foreign experience. Foreign work experience alone doesn't carry much if any weight for getting employment in the US.
The US is supposed to be a free country without any protected class either way. In the same way that I wouldn't support a protected class for descendants of slavery, I wouldn't for any settlers either.
The hardship faced by immigrants now have to do with with the stability of their visa, which is something that settlers never had to put up with. It is not a joke to be chronically stressed by whether one is at risk of losing one's legal status, also waiting for years for their paperwork to process. These are stresses that people like you and I never experienced first-hand.
I believe in merit-based employment and in training of citizens, without favoritism of any kind. As for work visas, I have already noted that they should be limited to those with a PhD (except for farm labor), and this will eliminate much of job-related concerns that people like you and I might have. Taking extremist ring-wing positions is not only unnecessary, but it opens the door down the road to someone eventually classifying you as not being sufficiently righteous.
Note also that one benefit that citizens already have over visa workers is that citizens have more possibilities for entrepreneurial activities without being encumbered by work restrictions.
It is obvious that your beliefs are extremely racist, and they will find zero sympathy from me. I am perfectly okay with sending work visa holders back, but independent of race, not because of it. As for naturalized citizens, they have already sworn their oath to the Constitution; this is something that birthright citizens never even have to do.
Trump is not doing anything with regard to limiting work visas or instituting salary requirements as you want them. He cares about himself, his family, and no one else. He is striving to take away Medicaid and SNAP from Americans who need it, putting them in extreme jeopardy. He also doesn't care if people have to pay a lot more for goods that are made domestically when they could be made cheaply abroad for a third of the cost. If he actually cared about the people, he wouldn't waste money on tax cuts for the rich as he just did. He would ensure that all citizens get the professional training they needed to thrive in the jobs that are available today. And yes, he would end most work visas, but being how crooked he actually is, he won't ever do it.
When someone will want to denaturalize you for criteria that suits them but not you, maybe then you will understand. Being American is an idea, an ideal founded on mutually-respecting freedom; it is not restricted by race or ancestry. The original settlers were mainly from Siberia anyway. How would it make you feel if someone called for 90% of European people to be sent back to Europe? It would be equally justifiable. That's how you come across. After all, the descendants of the European settlers have poisoned America with irreversible PFAS contamination, with 5-10% of arable land no longer being suitable for growing any safe produce as a result.
I am neither left-wing nor right-wing. I probably am more Libertarian leaning with some restrictions. I see the pros and cons of both sides, and I know when certain viewpoints are not even self-consistent. Even if I were down to my last dollar, I would never want a privileged class for the simple reason that excessive privilege, on average, comes in the way of the struggle that fosters true self-development.
I am pretty sure the indigenous Siberian Americans disagree. They continue to see the Europeans as an unwelcome long-term occupation of their land.
I actually don't have a problem with racist beliefs because I think having them is quite natural. Acting on them, however, to discriminate or oppress, is what's wrong, hateful, and also illegal. In my libertarian playbook, the only correct avenues for race based decisions are when it comes to your private life, e.g. romance, and your private property. And the United States as a whole is not your private property.
It is apparent that wanting entitled and preferential treatment is something you deeply desire, without really having to work for it.
> Trump just got started.
Do Trump voters even read objective news? It is not evident that they do. They seem to read only right-wing news which hides from them that Trump works for the wealthy elite that paid for his campaign, not for the masses of people. Trump's recent actions of continued tax cuts favoring the rich speak to it. Oh and the wealthy elite absolutely want the worker visa system to continue.
The bigger risk to jobs in the years to come is from AI anyway. Those with a clue would do well to switch to self-employed or entrepreneurial activities.
Taxes suck. Most of it is wasted. Money is taken from productive people and productive money, and given to foreign countries. I completely support not taxing anyone, including the wealthy. Tariffs are a better way to fund the government and its crackpot programs.
I don't think any Indians are wanting us to leave, considering we gave them the gambling business and other monopolies. We are not their problem, we're their benefactors. Stupid people are always going to say things like "this is our land", when they were given reservations and largescale permanent handouts. It's just complaint culture. We've been amazingly gracious overlords. In fact, the entire west deserves a debt of gratitude, it's the only time in human history when a faction could have subjected the entire world to slavery and domination, but willingly gave it all up and most nations were so "enlightened" they chose not to. That will not be the outcome with a nation like China or most others. Most if not all these sorts of narratives are short sighted, spoiled, and just the Oppression Olympics. It's cool today to be the biggest loser because no one is actually oppressed or mistreated, but it's fun to play one on TV.
I completely agree that taxes are insane, but what I find particularly insane about it is there are so many of them: income, sales, property, payroll, inflation, tariffs. It would make sense to have just one form of it, probably just inflation or otherwise a population-normalized land ownership tax. An alternative tax could be minor gas fees on a government-managed privacy-enabled gold-weighted crypto coin.
Do you know how rich people actually spend their money? They squander most of it on frivolous nonsense. Most of them are not looking to improve the lives of other people, and they mostly just want the gravy to continue while they take their scheduled monthly vacation in a distant land. I wouldn't exactly call them productive people. The person making your food delivery at low wages is more productive. The person struggling with problems, working to solve them, also is productive.
As for the government, it has both good and bad programs. A simple metric to measure is -- could they increase the life expectancy of people cumulatively over the next one hundred years, and by how much? This is the ultimate metric really.
You continue with your entitled feeling, now at the national level, and it will be your downfall. The truth is that West (mostly the UK) is actually what divided too many countries quite arbitrarily and unfairly in the previous century, leading to many unnecessary wars between them, also sowing terrorism. There is nothing but contempt toward the West for these actions. Consider it good fortune that the US didn't do it.
Trump voters look to have zero capability for independent thought, as they always agree with what their master does, as if he can do no wrong.
Your beliefs are your own. Personally I would consider those beliefs to be a clown show for the most part with few exceptions.
GDP alone does nothing for the human condition. To me, productive actions are not those that increase GDP or the stock price, but those that improve the human condition. The rich have a moral obligation to fund activities that improve the human condition, preferably by themselves without governmental intervention. The alternative path is to destroy the planet with CO2, microplastics, and PFAS as we have been doing.
Tariffs are going to be a complete and utter failure due to the "first sale rule", and this rule is a just one that cannot go away either. Have you tried ordering anything from abroad lately? Odds are good that it will get stuck in Customs forever. Their system is utterly dysfunctional, more so than it was previously. Will Customs pay me interest on the cost for the time they hold my item? Why not?
If I take quality of life to be healthspan, meaning the length of a healthy life, then life expectancy absolutely drives it. The two are tightly interlinked. If instead you mean QoL to the size of your SUV, then it's true, it doesn't drive life expectancy.
Food is program too. In effect, you're not anti-program; you're just anti everything you don't understand or aren't even aware of.
Money doesn't solve problems for the vast majority of people who don't know how to use money to solve problems. It solves numerous problems for those who know how to use it intelligently. Pretty much the dumbest thing I have ever read on this site is money doesn't solve poverty. It solves that, and a lot more, including resolving trauma if ones knows how. It's true that most people waste their money, but the few that don't are the ones that matter.
It is not "entitled" to have certain expectations about the stability of the legal visa system. If one has been informed legally that action X will lead to result Y, then one purses the action. The feeling of entitlement comes in when one wants to bypass the action to get the result, like you do.
>Personally I would consider those beliefs to be a clown show for the most part with few exceptions.
You call my views a clown show, but I find your views just naive and childish. As well as antiquated. Just old school Marxism that has failed countless times, never once in history actually ending-well.
>The rich have a moral obligation to fund activities...CO2, microplastics, and PFAS as we have been doing...
The rich aren't responsible for microplastics and everything else. This is just silly thus I can't address it further.
>Tariffs are going to be a complete and utter failure due to the "first sale rule", ...
Tariffs are in use and have been by every other country in the world. This anti-Trump narrative that somehow they're only bad when Trump enacts them is something that no serious person could tolerate. I'm surprised those of you on the left are still reaching for this one. Tariffs work, and they worked in the USA 100 years ago before the personal income tax, which is truly a criminal policy. And not just because it's an unapportioned direct tax.
>Money doesn't solve problems for the vast majority of people who don't know how to use money to solve problems. It solves numerous problems for those who know how to use it intelligently.
Which is exactly why money hasn't solved any problems. Anyone prepared to handle money, earns it themselves and handles it. And that's why handing out money doesn't solve poverty. This is where your views are naive, if it were so easy- most of our problems would be solved by the Year of Our Lord 2025. Yet we're not even close, and took many steps back because of antiquated, backwards views like yours.
>It is not "entitled" to have certain expectations about the stability of the legal visa system.
Yes it is. We owe them nothing, that's why it's entitlement to have any expectations of someone else's country.
>entitlement comes in when one wants to bypass the action to get the result, like you do.
No basis for your assertion exists. Native Americans like myself have been here over 300 years and built everything around you. The action was already done, the actual building and settlement of this country was done by a specific population, for their ancestors, not the world. Just like every other country on Earth. Time travel and ask them if their struggle is for someone else's children, or their own. What this debate comes down to is a power struggle, who is going to hold power, and given Donald Trump had everything possible thrown at him, constant Nazi name calling, and still elected president says that more native Americans- brown, black, and white, agree with me than with you. The enemy here isn't racial as you think, no one is actually racist. That's left wing propaganda that everyone is done falling for. While you live in moral outrage at "how dare he!", the rest of us are tired of the left, with ideas like you espouse. Giving it all away to everyone else, and selling us down the river for shekels.
