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I wish folks would test these against current gen Qualcomm modems. We're comparing a brand new modem to a 2 1/2 year old Modem. Android uses x80 and Qualcomm just released x85. So a fair comparison would be C1 vs x80.

I understand that is what the iPhone 16 uses, but that's an Apple problem they purposefully took an older generation modem from Qualcomm for their 16 series. Knowing Apple's modus operandi they probably decided to use the x71 so when they released C1 it appeared better than it really is. They did this during the Intel Modem days when they shipped that.

None the less it will be interesting to see how this modem develops further and what products it ends up in.



You think Apple deliberately sabotaged their flagship model so they could make their cheap phone look better?


No, but Apple always uses older generation parts from their suppliers (modems, displays, glass, NAND, etc), not to sabotage their products, but to cut down on BOM costs and increase margins, as suppliers always ask a premium for their latest and greatest, especially since their customers never cared about the spec sheet so using the most expensive parts would be profits wasted.


Sure. Using older, cheaper parts that get the job done is just sensible engineering. That’s not at all the claim I was replying to.


I think there is another dimension there - volume. Apple volume is on another level and it takes time to scale up factories to build latest and greatest things.


>Apple volume is on another level and it takes time to scale up factories to build latest and greatest things.

Bad take. Samsung sells as many phones as Apple while using the latest and greatest parts on the flagships.


Good point, do you know the breakdown of Samsung device sales by generation and what chipsets they use? My layman expectation is that most of the android headset sales are lower end models. However, Samsung might be a different beast.


when you operate at the scale of apple a defect can become very costly. using well tested, older tech lowers this counterparty risk.



If that's even true, that's still not even close to the same thing.




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