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If I thought that nobody had a chance in hell of competing with generative models compiled by Disney from its corpus of lighthearted family movies, I'd be even less keen to give unlimited power to create derivative works out of everything in history to the companies with the greatest amount of computing power, which in this case happens to be a subsidiary of Microsoft.

All property rights depends on public funding the infrastructure to enforce them. If I believed movies derived from applying generative AI techniques to other movies was the endgame of human creativity, I'd find your endgame of it being the fiefdom of corporations who sold enough Windows licenses to own billions of dollars worth of computer hardware even more dystopian than it being invested in the corporations who originally paid for the movies...



Two thoughts

1. You are assuming that "greatest computing power" is a requirement. I think we're actually seeing a trend in the opposite direction with recent generative art models: It turns out consumer grade hardware is "enough" in basically all cases, and renting the compute you might otherwise be missing is cheap. I don't buy this as the barrier.

2. Given #1, I think you are framing the conversation in a very duplicitive manner by pitching this as "either Microsoft or Disney - pick your oppressor". I'd suggest that breaking the current fuckery in copyright, and restoring something more sane (like the 7 + 7 year original timespans) would benefit individuals who want to make stories and art far more than it would benefit corporations. Disney is literaly THE reason for half of the current extensions in timespan. They don't want reduced copyright - they want to curtail expression in favor of profit. This case just happens to have a convienent opponent for public sentiment.

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Further - "All property rights depends on public funding the infrastructure to enforce them" Is false. This is only the case for intellectual property rights, where nothing need be removed from one person for the other to be "in violation".


I'm assuming greater computing power is a requirement because creating generative feature length movies (which is a few orders of magnitude more complex than creating PNGs) is something only massive corporations can afford the computing power to do at the moment (and the implied bar for excellence something we haven't reached). Certainly computing power and dev resource are more of a bottleneck to creating successful AI movies than not having access to the Disney canon which was the argument the OP made for anything other than OpenAI having unlimited rights over everyones content leading inexorably to a Disney generative AI monopoly. (another weakness of that is I'm not sure the Disney canon is sufficient training data for Disney to replace their staff with generative movies, never mind necessary for anyone else to ever make a marketable quality movie again)

Given #1, I think the OP is framing the conversation in a far more duplicitous manner by assuming that in a lawsuit against AI which doesn't even involve Disney, the only beneficiary of OpenAI not winning will be Disney. Disney extending copyright laws in past decades has nothing to do with a 10 year old internet company objecting to Open AI stripping all the copyright information off its recent articles before feeding them into its generative model.

> Further - "All property rights depends on public funding the infrastructure to enforce them" Is false. This is only the case for intellectual property rights, where nothing need be removed from one person for the other to be "in violation".

People who don't respect physical property are just as capable of removing it as people who don't respect intellectual property are capable of copying it. In both cases the thing that prevents them doing so is a legal system and taxpayer funded enforcement against people that don't play by the rules.


> All property rights depends on public funding the infrastructure to enforce them

Still true, because people generally depend on the legal system and police departments to enforce physical property rights (both are publicly funded entities).


All property rights absolutely depend on public infrastructure. The only thing keeping your house in your name is the legal system enforcing your right to it.




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