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> We have people who frothed at the mouth over the role played by unelected bureaucrats now frothing at the mouth at proposals to remove the last hereditary Lords from our legislature...

I do not think they are the same people. The majority of votes were to leave the EU, the majority of people want to get rid of hereditary peerages.

> And they're elected hereditary Lords, albeit via a franchise consisting entirely of other hereditary Lords

The appointment is formally made by the monarch, in practice by the Prime Minister, with some recommendations coming from a commission that is not part of the house of lords.



> I do not think they are the same people.

You obviously haven't read the Telegraph or listened to many Conservative MPs recently. I don't blame you tbf!

> The appointment is formally made by the monarch, in practice by the Prime Minister, with some recommendations coming from a commission that is not part of the house of lords.

Those are life peers. Hereditary peers are, as the name suggests, people who get their access to the House of Lords by accident of birth rather than Prime Minister. But since Blair cut a deal to get rid of all but 92 of them, they have elected the 92, from a franchise consisting exclusively of people who had hereditary titles that had previously entitled them to a seat.




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