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For some reason, this mention of Starship's "We Built This City" led me down a hole of Internet research on my own personal Mandala Effect rabbit hole. I remembered as a kid, the Residents - who I only knew at the time as a bunch of guys wearing eyeballs as their heads - being part of the video for "We Built This City". I later became a fan of the Residents, who hadn't mentioned this at all. No evidence of them appearing with Starship, including the video for "We Built this City". But I hadn't been able to shake this vision for decades. Did I imagine it?

Tonight, digging deeper, I found it! I found the source. In 1984, just a year before "We Built this City", Jefferson Starship (the progenitor of Starship, we won't mention the Airplane here) released a video for their ostensible hit single "Layin' it on the Line".

There they were! The Residents! In a terrible, terrible Jefferson Starship video! Sung by Grace Slick and, uh, that dude from Starship!

Strangely, I'll be able to sleep deeply tonight knowing that this mystery that was knawing at my soul for so many years has finally been solved.



With a promotion like "terrible, terrible Jefferson Starship video," I needed to go watch it.

That really was just a completely incoherent mess. But the guys with eyeballs on their heads were there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLnVgR7fLw


Every once in awhile I see an 80s video or movie, and remember: yeah, wow, people really did have giant hair back then.


It's not giant when everyone is doing it: it's just normal.

And what do you have against letting your soul glo? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=961x0NmyHKE


I find Lionel Richie a phenomenon. The hair and moustache look weird now, but his songs stand the test of time.


Richie closing out the 1984 Olympics was most excellent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zj7C3GRj7s

Somewhere in here you can hear Jim McKay explaining the difference between "poppers" and "break dancers" and it is just awesome.


“Lionel Richie's Hello is the Battleship Potemkin of rock music videos...”

~ Humphrey B. Flaubert, TISM, If You're Not Famous at Fourteen, You're Finished - De RigueurMortis (2001)


+1, but then my copy of Rick James' Street Songs has grooves cut into it, so what do I know of music?


A lot of things have always been pretty boring. People wanting to be seen were less likely to look boring though, so there's a selection effect there.


It's true. I knew a person who got stopped by customs on an international flight because they thought no person could conceivably have 12 cans of hair spray in their luggage for innocent purposes (she did- for creating the massive 80s hair).


I wonder how anyone got anything done in those days. It must take hours and tens of dollars in hair spray every day to get your hair that big


as they say about anime characters -- higher the hair, closer to god


I feel like I should be familiar with this song but I'm not, and I have to say, truly one of the great choruses of 80's rock: "we're layin' it on the line (layin' it on the line) ---just layin' it all, right on the line".


I'll see your incoherent mess and raise you:

https://youtu.be/UJ1tBVtYOBc?si=gSho4eXJMV96onaw

Surely this must have been when some new "clip art for video" technology had just appeared?

The song slaps though.


The Quantel Paintbox is the usual suspect for early 1980s video graphics excesses:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantel_Paintbox

The wireframe 3D graphics in that video must have been rendered in something else, though. Maybe it was made on Amiga with VideoToaster?

The original Amiga with its 8MHz 68000 CPU had just enough horsepower for that kind of 3D.


The song was released in 1986, which is years before the Video Toaster and the LightWave 3D software were released. They might have used an Amiga 1000 for some of it.


"Quantel Paintbox" is generally regarded as the most beautiful phrase in the English language, having taken the reins from "Cellar Door".


"It can't be worse than the Starship video"

o_O


This is pretty uninspiring, but let me be honest. I'd vote for Mick and Slick at this point. :P


What the heck did I just watch?


You mean Mandela effect, don't you? If not, the name Mandala is yet another Mandela effect. :D


The Mandala effect is forgetting that the effect is about Nelson Mandela not a Buddhist exercise in impermanence.


Damn son. That line is epic. Pretend I somehow gave you another dozen votes.


It was always mandala effect. The fractal like nature of mandala characterize the wispy tenuous nature of ones memory.


No, it's named for Nelson Mandela. Because when he died people falsely thought they remembered him dying a couple of decades before. But they likely conflated his release from prison with his death.


Bena, the post you are responding to was joking. "It always was something different" - gaslighting - is the entire point of the Mandela Effect.

And well done, GP: I laughed outloud!


While possible, it’s also entirely likely that he was mistaken. And it’s a reasonable mistake, so that’s why I provided the context of the origin and didn’t try to shame him for not knowing.


And “gnawing,” not “knawing”! :)


Sign of our times -- starship more popular than airplane


Balin had that whiney edge that was in style (and probably always is).


I remember having my own rabbit hole with the Residents band.

In junior high I used to stay up late and watch Letterman. He used to have Chris Elliot the comedian on doing various bits. He had one that imitated the Residents where Chris and several other people dressed up in weird outfits called something like "Maumoshcantz" or something French sounding. Chris' costume had a big black box with three toilet rolls for the face on it and played bizarre, "avant-garde" music. When they finished, Chris came over to sit with Dave. Dave tried to announce the name of the band and Chris scolded him by over pronouncing the name. Then Dave asked what part Chris played and he exclaimed, "I played the guy with toilet rolls on his head Dave! Shesssh!"

I recounted the bit to a friend and he instantly said the whole bit was a tilt of the cap to the band The Residents and it poked fun at their outfits and members on purpose.

This lead me, pre-internet to start digging around to find out what I could about the band. A few weeks later there was some MTV News story about a musician who died that apparently was one of the members. They made light of the fact nobody knew this since the band had purposefully concealed their identities so they could rotate out people as necessary and then say they just wanted people to focus on the music instead. Strangely enough, there was a similar story making the rounds on the internet about something similar that Slipknot was doing and Corey Taylor even used the same reason they wear masks - so fans can focus more in the music! This of course, brought back memories in my own research that eventually concluded with an older brother of a friend who was into really weird stuff and gave me a somewhat sordid history of the The Residents, and some the eerie connections to their management team Cryptic Corporation. He even pulled out several albums saying there's a possibility The Beatles WERE the Residents and showed me the two albums "Meet the Residents" and "Meet the Beatles" album as proof. Keep in mind, I was like 10, my buddies brother was like 16; so imagine how that conversation went down.

Anyways, thanks for bringing this up, it was really fun remembering my own rabbit hole with that band. Which interestingly enough, started with a David Letterman bit and ended with similar rumors swirling around Slipknot.


The Letterman bit must have been parodying Mummenschanz, an avant-garde Swiss theater group that was pretty popular (as those things go) at the time. They do feel a bit in the same corner of the arts universe as the Residents...



Mandala effect a typo?

It should be Mandela effect, but this is the 2nd time I've seen Mandala in its place.


Are you sure it's supposed to be "Mandela effect"?


Yes; it is named for the mistaken belief that Mandela died in prison during the 80s.


Nope. Ironically that’s something people misremember about the origin of the Mandala effect, which existed long before Nelson Mandela died.


But he did?

Or didn't he?


Whoosh :)


Like aluminum and flavor. My spellchecker does not agree even if I write those words correctly.


You have your spellchecker set wrong: you need to set it to US English, not UK English.


It defaults to US. That is why it doesn't like correctly spelled colours and flavours of aluminium.


The Residents' Hello Skinny lives perpetually in my head, refusing to pay rent and is somehow immune to eviction notices


>"Layin' it on the Line"

Damn that song is great! Seems to have an anti-war message too.


The Residents for Presidents!


You can't tell the story and then not link the video!




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