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I don't disagree and I don't think anyone is making the argument that Russia and Putin will be great neighbors from now on.

But no one ever seems to propose that there's still a possibility Ukraine can retake that land. I would definitely like to hear it, but for the most part the border has very slowly been moving in the wrong direction.



Ukraine has been moving into Russia lately.

They’ll retake it at the current pace, but it takes time.

Part of the reason why it isn’t discussed though is 1) Russia gets really freaked out about it, and 2) it’s (somewhat) in Western interests for Ukraine to not ‘win’.

The longer this drags out, the more fucked Russia is. (Also Ukraine long term, but eggs need to be broken to make an omelette!). And from a western perspective, this is a remarkably cheap proxy war.

If we don’t count the damage Russia is doing to us through propaganda and social media manipulation anyway.




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