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Why Broadcom Is Killing Off VMware's Standalone Products (thenewstack.io)
25 points by ohjeez on Jan 25, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 12 comments


I got dinged hard for asking why all the VMWare cusomters don't go to say, VirtualBox.

What I ended up learning from that wasn't necessarily that VMWare products are good, which I will take the indignant replies and downvotes that they are, I don't have them, but that Broadcom's forthcoming price hikes were going to be accepted by their rabid fanbase with grumbles but bigger checks.

What's weird is that, even with AWS, what does practically every large company have as a sub-business? Accountants? Check. Marketing? CHeck.

Oh, and datacenters. Lots of them. Why hasn't industry gotten together to ... ah, nevermind. I know how this ends.


Vmware products are quite good at scale and support enterprise features that a casual user won't need/cant use.

Virtualbox is designed to be ran on a machine that is already running a desktop OS. It is designed to extend a machine. This is great for a developer.

Vmware/ESXI is a bare metal hypervisor that IS the OS.It effectively partitions a computer hardware and is incredibly stable/secure. This also allows it to do fancy powerful network and storage features directly that an app inside windows/linux/mac can't do.

LoB apps are certified & supported on vmware products. Like the payroll systems you get paid with? If it's running on virtualbox and it does something weird, you're probably not getting paid that week. If it's on Vmware, you better believe you can call people to have it solved asap.


> VMWare cusomters don't go to say, VirtualBox.

from Bad to Worse


VirtualBox is owned by Oracle. If your motivation for switching vendors is getting screwed over by the old vendor, Oracle is the last place you want to go to.


Virtual Box, is good for those that don't want to pay for stuff on local computers.

It doesn't do the performance of VMWare, nor can be used as cloud hypervisor.


> Virtual Box, is good for those that don't want to pay for stuff on local computers.

Be careful using it in corporate environments.

I used VirtualBox at home regularly - old games that won't run on modern operating systems anymore. Being free, it worked reasonably well for that.

At work I had to troubleshoot an issue with some software I couldn't side load on my usual machine as the installer complained of a newer version also installed, removing the newer version would've taken a long time and broke some of my existing projects. So I quickly installed VirtualBox, being 'free', to virtualise another copy of Windows for troubleshooting.

Long story short something else came up, I couldn't get to the troubleshooting stuff so I never got around to setting up a virtual machine after installing VirtualBox.

About a week later I got an email from one of our sysadmins asking whether I was still using VirtualBox. Querying why (out of curiosity, explaining my situation), apparently Oracle reached out, sniffing round for licensing fees, because they noticed I downloaded VirtualBox from their website. I didn't fill out any forms or gave Oracle my details. Work, I'm 95% sure, doesn't use Oracle products at all.

I promptly removed VirtualBox after that. On my personal machine too.


I seldom use stuff on work computers that hasn't been IT approved, or demanded by customer in written form.

Doing otherwise is the kind of stuff that breaks security guidelines and a possible reason to get someone fired.


The culling has begun.


What happens to Spring and suite of family?


Time for Proxmox to step up?


Lets see if Spring also gets the chop.


Some of the discontinued products:

VMware vSphere Enterprise Plus

VMware vSphere+

VMware vSphere Standard (excluding subscription)

VMware vSphere ROBO

VMware vSphere Scale Out

VMware vSphere Desktop

VMware vSphere Acceleration Kits

VMware vSphere Essentials Kit

VMWare vSphere Essentials Plus Kit (excluding new subscription offering)

VMware vSphere Starter/Foundation

VMware vSphere with Operations Management

VMware vSphere Basic

VMware vSphere Advanced

VMware vSphere Storage Appliance

VMware vSphere Hypervisor

VMware Cloud Foundation (excluding new VCF subscription offering)

VMware Cloud Foundation for VDI

VMware Cloud Foundation for ROBO

VMware SDDC Manager

VMware vCenter Standard

VMware vCenter Foundation

VMware vSAN

VMware vSAN ROBO

VMware vSAN Desktop

VMware HCI Kit

VMware Site Recovery Manager

VMware Cloud Editions/Cloud Packs

VMware vCloud Suite

VMware Aria Suite (formerly vRealize Suite)

VMware Aria Universal Suite (formerly vRealize Cloud Universal)

vMware Aria Suite Term

VMware Aria Operations for Networks (formerly vRealize Network Insight)

VMWare Aria Operations for Networks Universal (formerly vRealize Network Insight Universal)

VMware vRealize Network Insight ROBO

VMWare Aria Operations for Logs (formerly vRealize Log Insight)

VMware vRealize Operations 8 Application Monitoring Add-On

VMware Aria Operations

VMware Aria Automation

VMware Aria Automation for Secure Hosts add-on (formerly SaltStack SecOps)

VMware vRealize Automation SaltStack SecOps add-on

VMware Aria Operations for Integrations (formerly vRealize True Visibility Suite)

VMware Cloud Director

Cloud Director Service

VMware NSX

VMware NSX for Desktop

VMware NSX ROBO

VMware NSX Distributed Firewall

VMware NSX Gateway Firewall

VMware NSX Threat Prevention to Distributed Firewall

VMware NSX Threat Prevention to Gateway Firewall

VMware NSX Advanced Threat Prevention to Distributed Firewall

VMware NSX Advanced Threat Prevention to Gateway Firewall

VMware NSX Advanced Load Balancer (excluding Subscription, SaaS)

VMware Container Networking Enterprise with Antrea

VMware HCX

VMware HCX+

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From: https://www.thestack.technology/vmware-is-killing-off-56-pro...




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