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> https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac7cfc

Very interesting!! Especially Fig. 5. Thanks for the link.

Summary:

* ICE vs battery crossover at 18k-24k miles (1.5-2.0 years avg usage) and Hybrid vs battery crossover approx 36k-48k miles (3-4 years avg usage). Reducing car usage obviously extends those timelines.

* ICE with 12k-18k miles is equal to battery with 0 miles, Hybrid with 18k-24k miles is equal to battery with 0 miles.

Temperature and energy generation sources affect the calculations quite a bit by region regarding engine and battery efficiency and cleanliness of generation sources.

Appreciate your inputs, updating my priors.



No problem.

It's also important to be aware that this is a snapshot in time. (2022 to be precise). What was true then won't be tomorrow due to an evolving battery landscape and grid energy mix.

We don't for example, see a lot of batteries made from recycled material today because the demand for batteries vastly outstrips the amount of recyclable material we have. That won't be true until both the market starts to saturate with batteries and the current crop of batteries starts to hit EOL (probably 10 maybe even 20 years).

I'm actually really impressed with where recycling is today, they are WAY further along than I expected. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2xrarUWVRQ )




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