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The CCS chargers have an emergency stop button. You can twist it (or whatever) to bring it back online.

From what I can tell, people press it instead of dealing with the touch screen.

90% of the problems I've had come down to payment processing issues. They all thought they should bundle a crappy social network with the ability to pay for charging, and installed buggy / broken card readers.

Ford made it pretty clear they're supporting NACS because they sent people to chargers to see if they could charge or not, and the failure rate was way above the networks' reported broken charger rate.

I don't think the switch to the supercharger network has anything to do with the charging technology.

Having said that, can you pay to charge a tesla with a credit card? Does it actually work reliably? If the other networks are any indicator, that's the hardest technical challenge in this space.



Here in Norway the charging companies almost all have their own solution. They try to pass it off as some kind of advantage that I need 45 accounts and apps.

Gov't finally got their act together and have now mandated that all new chargers must accept a standard payment card withou any fuzz.

Hopefully they'll make that rule universal in a not too distant future.


But wouldn't adding a payment terminal to a tesla supercharger add another point where it could break? I think the future are chargers without any interface at all, as well as no apps, the car just negotiates payment when you plug it in.


Hasn't been an issue with the regular gas pumps, which have had card terminals for decades.

And they're only requiring to accept card. The chargers could still offer charging via app or sms like now.


I would prefer Tesla style, where it is negotiated via a protocol over the power plug rather than app, SMS, or POS.


Sure, but that won't happen without gov't intervention. Card is easy enough, just blip and you're done.


> Gov't finally got their act together and have now mandated that all new chargers must accept a standard payment card withou any fuzz.

Norway leads the way yet again!


You keep a credit card on file in your Tesla account. The supercharger recognizes your car and it automatically charges your card.


I shouldn't need a Tesla account though in the same way I shouldn't need an EVgo account or an Electrify America account or a Chargepoint account or a Waygo account or a Sheetz account or an Exxon account or a Shell account or...

I don't need an account to go pump gas from whatever gas station nearby. I shouldn't need an account to get a charge from a Tesla charger, and it shouldn't be able to just deny service to my car because the CEO of Tesla doesn't want to play ball with some other manufacturer at the moment.

Exxon or Shell shouldn't be able to just refuse to pump gas into a Hyundai.


> Having said that, can you pay to charge a tesla with a credit card? Does it actually work reliably? If the other networks are any indicator, that's the hardest technical challenge in this space.

I don't think it's a technical challenge. I just don't think any of the charging networks are content to only sell the electricity - they do everything they can to get users to download an app so they can aggregate and sell user data as another source of income.

From a user point-of-view, of course EV chargers that could work just like a gas pay-at-the-pump system would be preferable, but that hasn't been mandated, so that hasn't happened.

The credit card fees are also relatively high for small transactions (it's usually just about $1.20 for me to top up my PHEV battery at the chargers near my work). So the apps prefer to get you to "load" 10 or 20 bucks into the app at a time, and then debit your app account for each charge.


I've been seeing more and more credit card terminals on CCS chargers which don't require any kind of account. Swipe a card or tap NFC, plug it in, and it charges.




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