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I'm not sure why you think HBO has gone downhill -- I wouldn't compare vice and HBO. One was supposed to be a news organization the other entertainment.

HBO is still banging out great TV shows. Last of Us is the most recent that comes to mind.



Just to clarify, Vice was on HBO.


It was also on YouTube -- I still don't think YouTube and Vice are comparable entities.


Vice was originally only on HBO and was produced by Bill Maher’s production company for the first 6 seasons. So it was an “hbo show” in the beginning.

It since expanded out to YouTube and everywhere else. And I think hbo cancelled it and it moved to Showtime a few years ago.


Except that's not true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Media

Vice was on YouTube before HBO and I definitely recall that -- not to mention it's own website hosted it's own videos before HBO. You guys are making out like that HBO/Vice are somewhat interchangeable terms like Google/Alphabet and it's not.


“Vice Media originally broadcast their news programs on HBO, which broadcast the Emmy-winning[13] weekly documentary series Vice, which premiered in April 2013.”

I’m not saying that they are interchangeable. I’m saying that Vice News programs were funded initially by HBO. It would be like if Stranger Things moved from Netflix to Hulu. It doesn’t mean that they are interchangeable terms, but that it started with Netflix and moved.


I am not saying that at all. I was simply referring to Vice production on HBO. I should’ve worded it better but this is just a casual message board for me.


No, Vice was originally a free magazine only on print.




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