uhh no the blatant problem here is american mentality where everything is illegal by default including breathing and walking. breathing is only legal because it's necessary to survive. walking is legal but only on certain areas of land. you HNers display this mentality every single day with your latest "oh cookies should be illegal" and "oh AI should be illegal" nonsense. your narrative about car culture (the first time i heard this one) is insane and probably some left wing talking point or something, i don't read the news. normies have that pathetic mentality you describe regardless of cars. call it american mentality, not car mentality, although it's actually the same in all countries (including whatever "well designed" city like oslo or whatever you have in mind), but america invented it. tl;dr the disease is statism, not car culture.
Leaving aside the parts of this argument not worth dealing with (that is, most of them), you make the fundamental carbrain error. How do you think interstates, suburban development, and countless square miles of public roads and public parking came to be? The answer (and it's an extremely easy one to find because it's less than a hundred years old) is massive amounts of public investment. There's no universe in which virtuously libertarian (TM) private money would have done the same thing. So while the midwit impulse is to bifurcate "statism" and "car culture" and call one a "left wing talking point", they are at the very least not exclusive. There's mutual causation, of course, but I have no desire to open that chapter under this comment.
i didn't say the car culture cause is mutually exclusive to statism. the problem is statism, regardless of car culture. the thread does bring up a good point about the average idiot who will fall over and die the moment his company stops paying him enough for his car, but that's not the issue. the main problem here is statism, and not just statism, but extreme statism. every country today follows an extreme form of statism, not just some reasonable moderate version. this is why a cop in america has to have a gun, for instance.
and you display it perfectly, i reject the mentality where breathing has to be illegal and we all suffocate until someone makes an exception for it to be legal, and in return you use "libertarian" as an insult, like a typical wingnut. whatever, you guys can enjoy your pointless 4chan teenager tier pontificating over the connection of car culture to what will end as police cameras being installed in our homes, while i sit back and read another article about how i'm right where a 15 year old goes to jail for "misusing a computer" because computers have to be used correctly or else its illegal due to the fact that you don't live in an enlightened state like you think you do but you just look to me the same way you think some reactionary hell in the middle east looks.
actually, here's a better way to put it. the average person is a coward and will instantly agree with any law that purports to fight some problem that looks legit. he's also a consumer, and will buy any law that alleges to make his life more convenient. that is how law is treated today, and why we pay for way more police than necessary as well as why they think they can go make up new problems to fight. it really is that simple, after all, you either believe covid is a hoax or you believe that elementary school children need to learn that two males can have sex. none of you deserve to be taken seriously like the adults you think you are. this is a forum of webdevs who have an inflated sense of intellect due to their wage who can program as good as a 15 year old PHP hacker, after all.
People already install police cameras in their home. They have a corporate logo on them and are sold as a product with certain benefits. Of course, since we live in a world of nation states, there's some point at which Amazon interacts with them...
