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It’s the same topic. Lots of middle class professionals have essentially the same output as their forebears did 40 years ago. They are not expanding the pie. They are nonetheless richer in absolute terms, but have pulled away in relative terms from those that are much more productive than their fore-bearers. This is perfectly fine but for envy.


> Lots of middle class professionals have essentially the same output as their forebears did 40 years ago.

No, they have much higher output.

> They are not expanding the pie.

They are.

> They are nonetheless richer in absolute terms

They are not. It takes two incomes to do what one income used to pay for. Lots of middle class people cannot afford to even buy a house. Something most of their parents managed to do at a young age.

> but have pulled away in relative terms

Yes, this has also happened.

> those that are much more productive than their fore-bearers.

Much more productive? That's also not true.

> This is perfectly fine but for envy.

If it were envy, the middle class wouldn't be asking for better wages. They would be asking to become rich. It's not envy.


“Lots of middle class people cannot afford to even buy a house. Something most of their parents managed to do at a young age.”

This one thing seems to be something of an obsession. How much did it cost their parents to have a child at 40? Or to cure prostate cancer?


Owning a house is not an obsession. Shelter is a basic human need and people across many cultures own houses.

And no, it's not one thing, it's just one example. People aren't getting paid as fairly as they used to.

Yes quality of medical care has improved. That's not the discussion. We're talking about fair pay.


You made this up. Average labor productivity has steadily increased over this time.




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