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I don't care which part of the garbage entity known as vice is responsible, vice and all its garbage producers are still garbage.

Doing the spiderman-points-the-finger at editor or whatever - who cares. Just stop reading vice.



I generally don't read Vice, but I saw some of their videos from the Ukrainian war and they were genuinely good. If you want to give them a chance, I would recommend this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhBfNDVs-PY


their videos on ukraine are heavily emotional with a soundtrack to queue your emotions without giving a good understanding of whats going on with the war, just emotional coverage of how hard life is.

If you want good coverage of the war in ukraine you need to follow someone like 'Reporting from Ukraine' or 'denys davydov' on youtube. Rather than crying babushkas tugging on heartstrings to a soundtrack meant to manipulate you, you get actual breakdowns, daily, of the tactical situation in various parts of ukraine and what both sides are trying. You'll get a video roughly every day instead of these heavily edited reports, but you'll know 1000% more about the war in ukraine than watching vice.

If you want to watch actual combat footage you can go to reddit for places like /r/combatfootage or /r/ukrainewarvideoreport. But you will see people die or be mortally wounded, regularly.

If you want to spend 20 minutes feeling emotional vice is your go to. If you want to know about the war in ukraine go somewhere else. Vice is garbage.


There are people who are more interested in the human tragedy aspects of war, not the "daily tactical breakdowns".

As someone who watches and listens to a lot of history and war content, it's quite easy to forget that behind each number there is a human being. That's why i like the War Against Humanity (companion series of the World War 2 YouTube channel)'s occasional focus into a personal story. After weeks of X deported and sent to the gas chambers, you get accustomed to it. A personal diary/recollection hits different.


>Volodymyr Zolkin, who interviews Russian POWs

I don't think you can learn anything of value from this. his channel is a PR channel where POWs will say whatever for good treatment. I think its pretty slimy and not a good representation of what russian soldiers actually think.

It's not really about validity or not. Vice doesn't make anything to inform you, it makes things to manipulate you, and they don't hide it. they're pretty slick at videography but you don't leave better informed, just manipulated. get your news somewhere else.


I am a regular at the subreddits that you mention and I would say that while they cover the war from a different angle, both perspectives are valid.

Yet another, completely different angle, is the channel of Volodymyr Zolkin, who interviews Russian POWs.




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