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Huh. Oddly enough I'd never read this.


I contributed some VM's to this early on in the project but then pulled out of it. There were no stats to show how my nodes were contributing and I was concerned that I might lose my VPS account since I could not tell how this was being used. I liked the idea.


That's funny, I figured they would have shown it to you for recruiting purposes. :)

I remember Matt always talking about how Cloudflare was his ultimate vision for the honeypot project -- a way to block bad actors on the internet by aggregating information.


He tried to recruit me very early on although I don't think in 2009 (I believe it was the year after) and I wasn't ready to go to the US and they weren't ready to have someone in London.


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Didn’t down vote you, but generally bad form to hijack a thread just to pop a question about a completely unrelated topic; both from the thread and post itself.


Realize (now) you’re Cloudflare’s CTO, but might be worth pointing it out when you’re replying to Cloudflare related topics; you obviously have been around HN awhile so guessing it’s unlikely to make a difference, but in my experience on HN people generally appreciate the clarity.



In my experience, better to mention it, but understand your experience might say otherwise.


FWIW I agree with that approach. HN audience recognizes you anyway which gathers the upvotes, and if it’s really confusing someone will point out you’re the CF CTO anyway.


Think of it more as a name tag & uniform a franchise restaurant makes its employees wear, so you know who works there. Takes away the prestige pretty quick ;)


They have it in their bio which is the HN norm, not announcing one’s creds at every turn.

But I think these “HNers would appreciate it!” community spokesman kinds of comments are kinda lame. I don’t think HNers need to be spoon fed “I’m Cloudlfare’s CTO btw! :^D” every time the guy rears his head. Especially just to say he never read TFA before…


> They have it in their bio which is the HN norm, not announcing one’s creds at every turn.

No, appending something like "(disclaimer: CF employee)" is absolutely the norm anytime it could even remotely be construed as a conflict of interest. It might be fine here, but this is an edge case.


I disagree that every comment you make in a community has to stand alone and reintroduce yourself lest a newcomer flies off the handle without knowing who they’re responding to.

That is just annoying. Nor do I think it’s a convincing point coming from someone who suggests they aren’t new here.

imo people new to a community could slow their roll esp in a debate.


Alright; I've been on HN for 5 years. Since we're all friends who know each other so well, how about you tell me about myself? I'm reasonably active and I have an extremely recognizable username, so you should of course remember me quite well.


>I disagree that every comment you make in a community has to stand alone and reintroduce yourself lest a newcomer flies off the handle without knowing who they’re responding to.

I think it's circumstantial. For instance, I don't really think it's necessary for the CTO to have said, "disclaimer: CF employee/CTO/whatever" in this thread. But in this thread[1] from yesterday, I think it would've been helpful.

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32912075#32912276


Can you share for me some concerns you have about this disclaimer not being present on jgrahamc's post?

Do you feel you have been mislead by his post?


To me, it’s about the easy of connecting a comments relevance to the post, assuming CTO was on the founding team, so makes sense that them posting they had never seen the post adds value to the thread; anyone else posting comment like that would have likely been down voted.

To me, fair to assume everyone does not know everyone else, though they might be familiar with a subset of the information, for example, knowing who Cloudflare is. If a user appending affiliation to a comment adds context, to me it makes sense to add it - and not assume or expect users to click your profile, other users point out who you are, etc.


But even if you didn't know the user was a cloudflare exec, the comment just becomes a boring throwaway comment from some luser on the internet telling you their thoughts, like posting 'Me too!' like some braindead AOLer.


Are you recommending we do the world a favour and cap him like old yeller?


Sorry, but do not understand references or generally what you were expressing; highly suggest reading all my comments in thread to avoid forcing me to unnecessarily repeat myself.


My point is that adding a disclaimer about your employer only matters if the post has a possibility of being seen as astroturfing if the reader doesn't know about the relationship between the poster and the company.

For example, if jgrahamc said "I never knew that. Cloudflare is such an amazing company, everyone should apply for a job there!", then okay, request a disclaimer. But if someone just says "I didn't know that", then the comment goes from mildly interesting (if you know who they are) to boring (if you don't know who they are). The failure mode here for lack of disclaimer is the post just becomes a boring, low-effort comment.

I think jgrahamc adding "I'm the CTO of cloudflare, and I didn't know that!" might have been reasonable context, but no disclaimer is required, because the reader didn't need to be protected from the post. There was no conflict of interest in the post.


Said the user with “this account is a GPT-3 bot” in their profile.

Like I said, pointed this out 100s of times over years and my experience says otherwise; not my first account, nor will it be my last. Also, not dang, not trying to be dang, but also firmly believe HN is a community and important for the community to express themselves, but also would be more than happy to respect dang’s wishes.


I just flagged/downvoted as content-less/off topic (as it is) and move on. No need to simp for online execs


Don’t agree about the flagging/down voting, since normally community agrees it is appropriate; also, how would the user even know that was an issue.

Do agree there appears to be degree of simp like behavior going on, which is interesting.




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