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Who got shot in the foot here? The article keeps talking about killing 55 thousand people. I’m trying to grok why “unstarring the repo” is such an earthshattering thing. It’s annoying if you wanted it starred / wanted notifications, because you have to notice and redo it… but there’s no irreparable harm, no data loss.

This reads like somebody was placing way too much personal mental value on “the repo for my project has a large number of stars”



So all those people got notifications and then some of them looked further at the notifications and then engaged. Now those people won't get those notifications and won't engage. Most of these people won't notice they don't get these notifications. They won't resubscribe. They're lost forever. This is kind of like losing your email list.

Your comment reads like you don't understand how a community works.


If the measure of community is “people who get my emails, and wouldn’t notice if they stopped getting my emails”, then yea, I guess we just disagree about what a community is.

I’m on an email list for marketing message for a hotel I stayed at last year. TIL that I’m part of their community.


Yea, over simplify it, that's always great.

If you focus solely on the getting notifications part. But the core part of any community is the ability to broadcast news to them. If you remove the ability to broadcast news and falicate communication between members then the community fades. Especially, if it's remove.

Not all members of a community are extremely active, some aren't that active at all if you remove the ability to let the less active people know stuff that may be of interest to them then obivously it'll damage a community.


To be fair, people very active in a project will probably realize relatively quickly.

Those most likely lost to the wind forever are the ones that star a repo and forget about it.

I think the problem self corrects but agree there's a short term slowdown possibility in the wake.


You don't get notifications after starring a repo, they're only a measure of how popular the repo is. The repo did legitimately lose its Watchers, but the author seems a lot more concerned about losing (and getting back) the stars.


> there’s no irreparable harm, no data loss.

There's a repo-user join table that is gone. That's literal data loss. If I delete your contacts, is that data loss? I mean, you still have your phone and all your ex-contacts still have phone numbers.


I've never considered data I deleted to be lost.

"Do you want to delete this?"

"Yes"

"Are you sure?"

"Yes."

....

"OMG it's all gone!?!?"


Have you been living under a rock? Everyone judges repos by their amount of stars. Why do you think every social media network has the concept of likes?


Can you just clarify if that statement was sarcastic or not?

I've had a very different experience around stars - they're just a bit of fluff and pretty unimportant compared to watches.


HTTPie's watches were irreversibly deleted, too.


> Irreversible

If the watchers still care to watch, they can choose to watch again.


That's not a reversal. If I burned your diary, you could write a new one, but nobody would call that a reversal.


They didn't burn a diary. They burnt the list of people who subscribed to updates to a diary. If those people still care about the diary, they can resubscribe to those updates.


It's crazy to me how quickly this conversation has devolved. If Pewdiepie had all his Youtube subscribers deleted should he just say "oh well, the ones that like me will come back". No. Because that's an absurd attitude. Obviously that would forever hurt his viewership. Github is no different with stars. They matter. Period. Maybe not to you. But they matter.


Pewdiepie's compensation is intrinsically related to his subscriber count, no? That gives him a reason to care. Is your compensation similarly related to your github star count? I sure hope not..

If I unstar your repo, I have not taken anything from you because you never owned my star in the first place. Github presents this number to you as though it were important, to give you a dopamine hit when the number goes up. Their motivation for doing this is obvious. If you fall for this trick, that's on you. You have the choice to stop caring.

And even if the premise of these metrics being important were accepted, the fact remains that the removal of people from the watchers list is not irreversible. No irreplaceable documents were destroyed. No diaries were burned. If the repository had been deleted, commit history erased, that would be comparable to a diary burning. But that's not what happened (and would probably still be reversible.)


>If the repository had been deleted

For which to happen you've to do the same thing: type out its name. So I wonder if people ask for privatize to be presented with number of stars, should when deleting a repo GitHub present you with number of commits, issues, releases, etc as well?


Assuming you're not being sarcastic: a company providing a metric and telling you to care about it does not oblige you to actually give a shit.


I feel like a parallel universe has suddenly intersected our own.


It's very much a matter of reputation. Losing the star as a user is a pretty small inconvenience, tantamount to losing a bookmark.




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