We need a Lennart to say 'fuck it', here's what I want, here's why, and I'm gonna do it. Unfortunately I don't think a whole gui display environment is in the cards for one person.
Wayland is also missing that one cool feature that makes people say: yes, I want that; I need that. And I KNOW I don't want Gnome 3.
>Wayland is also missing that one cool feature that makes people say: yes, I want that; I need that.
Its new! That's good enough for a lot of adopters. Gamers (on linux lol) might care about graphics. Wayland is however feature rich in having more people see it as a less functional software and when I tried it, I appreciated x.org more and more.
Edit: Gnome and wayland give slow mouse movements and can crash if you move mouse too fast.
It has one killer and necessary feature. It's smooth. Have you tried resizing a window under X11 and doing it under Wayland? I have hated those half drawn rectangles caused by X and the app not being synchronized for DECADES. In 2021 I can have a GUI that's almost as smooth as Windows 7 was.
I feel the rift in the Linux world grows bigger between the conservatives (fuck systemd! X11 was alright!) and the progressives (can I have HDR, fractional scaling, and hardware video acceleration on YouTube, please?). I want my computer to be modern and slick and fluid, I'm vain like that.
Yes, Wayland is still a beta, but it's here to stay, like systemd, like flatpak, like pipewire. There was no status quo before, X11 was a beta and crappy in other ways. Not suited for modern hardware. Deal with it. The xorg repo is there for anybody that thinks they can do better than Wayland. The reason why xorg had to be abandoned is a Google search away.
>I feel the rift in the Linux world grows bigger between the conservatives (fuck systemd! X11 was alright!) and the progressives (can I have HDR, fractional scaling, and hardware video acceleration on YouTube, please?). I want my computer to be modern and slick and fluid, I'm vain like that.
I have fractional DPI scaling in x.org, I just don't use it since undocking keeps it on that on my small screen.
I use systemd, pipewire, x.org, and never follow unix philosophy with my desktop environment not because I am some sort of political standard you set arbitrarily, I just use stuff that just works, like most computer users.
> The reason why xorg had to be abandoned is a Google search away.
Its mostly because you can't make it more perfect, but they did!
>After three years without a full release, X.Org 21.1.0 has finally landed with new features and a lot of bug fixes. While the next-generation for all Linux systems will eventually be Wayland, plenty still default to X.Org.
I really dislike how you turn linux into politics, announce it isn't suitable for modern hardware with zero reason, saying x11 (actually x.org was crappy as if the whole thread isn't talking about how much crappier wayland is) and deal with it. Leave your feelings at home.
Wayland is also missing that one cool feature that makes people say: yes, I want that; I need that. And I KNOW I don't want Gnome 3.