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But guess what, they are trying to convert non-Windows developers. Palm allowed me to develop on whatever I wanted. And they sent me a phone upon request (they were never sold in Brazil). So does Google. And every dumbphone out there that supports J2ME. The only company that also wants to restrict what I use is Apple. And Apple throws the equivalent of Visual Studio in with every Mac (all you have to do is download it). I don't think it's out of malice they don't support other platforms. I have a couple friends who work at Microsoft and they seem to really believe that everyone who develops software has a Windows machine and Visual Studio. And, if you are serious about developing software, an MSDN subscription.

And this just shows how amazing Microsoft's developer support and outreach really is. As long as you give them money, they support you. If you don't run Windows, they don't really care about you.

No, thanks. My software, my rules.

And, besides that, it's not like WP7 is gaining much support from manufacturers, or market share.



But guess what, they are trying to convert non-Windows developers.

Fortunately, the mass majority of programmers in the world program in and/or on Windows. When MS is inviting programmers on their WP7 platform, you can safely assume they don't mean you.

The Apple/Microsoft development scenario is equal. XCode is free, Visual Studio Express is free. You don't really need an MSDN subscription at all.

And this just shows how amazing Microsoft's developer support and outreach really is. As long as you give them money, they support you.

And this is why MS releases great dev tools, resources, documents, blogs, etc for free? They're offering a 2 day intensive WP7 programming e-course next week. Cost? Free.

If you don't run Windows, they don't really care about you.

Of course not. Does Apple care about you if you aren't using a Mac or an iPad? No. Does the Ubuntu team care about you if you're not using Ubuntu? Of course not.

it's not like WP7 is gaining much support from manufacturers, or market share.

Aside from Acer, Dell, Nokia, HTC, Samsung, Huwei, etc?

You're right about market share, but they've been at it less than a year with an OS with a rather mediocre feature set. Let's see how things are another year from now with Mango and beyond. Android took a while to kick in, too. I have to ask again. You go off and troll every. single. Microsoft thread, but you claim to shun and abhor them.

So why are you here trolling up discussions?


If you have a computer that is good enough to develop software on, you can figure out a way. Windows will run on almost any box that a Linux or Mac box runs on. Microsoft rightly believes that everyone who has a machine to develop software can figure out how to get a machine that runs Windows and Visual studio. If your too poor to buy the software you'll pirate it, and they can't squeeze blood from a stone anyway.


You can download Visual Studio Express for free as well.


Only if I have a Windows license, which I don't.




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