Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

This is the official github of the project.

https://github.com/eu-digital-green-certificates/

There are Android and iOS apps for QR reading, although they don't point to the production certificate chains so can't be used to verify "real" EU certs.



That is the SAP/T-Systems repository. It contains the implementation.

The main EU project is part of the eHealth Network and can be found here:

https://github.com/ehn-dcc-development/

Disclaimer: I'm working on it as part of the Dutch team, mainly contributing to the schema but have also helped get the gateway up and running.


Wondering why they haven't licensed it under GPL3.0 so at least other countries would have to also open source their apps if they reused the code. Also if some company reused the code to implement some malicious verifier that do tracking it would be easier to find out.


You want to err on the side of letting proprietary closed-source code bases (think "electronic health record" systems) adopt the reference implementation, even if they don't give back.

Otherwise the proprietary folks will come up with a competing implementation that meets their non-technical (licensing) requirements.


the juicy bits seem to be here: https://github.com/ehn-dcc-development


Practically all committers are German... How surprising ;)


I don‘t seem to get the point of this comment, but the reason for this is that the EU Commission has assigned this project to Deutsche Telekom and SAP, two German companies (as is explained in the README).


The point is Germany having too much power over such matters obviously.


From July 1st 2022 that influence will be reset, as that is the sunset date.

But i find this wording very ominous, as i sincerely hope it will be sunset way earlier than 2022.

> If needed, the scheme may run for a longer period than one year.

Source:

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-details-on-eu-covi...


As a German, I agree. Also not keen on health certificates in the first place to be honest and I doubt I will make use of it.

Android or iOS will certainly not see too much health data of mine. Kudos to those working on it for free, but I don't really like to use the results.


You would have to be a fool to trust Google or Apple with your health data.


Corona Warn App is the most successful implementation of a Covid tracing app in Europe. Italy's Immuni was good as well, but unfortunately politics and demented policies basically mangled one of the best pieces of Public Administration software my country had ever produced. In this regard, I can't be anything but satisfied that the Germans are taking the lead on a EU-wide policy. Also, I got vaccinated here in Berlin and since a week I already have a perfectly usable digital pass that I validated at the chemist's counter. For one, to be honest, let's give all the kudos to those who deserve them.

Side note: we're so generous that I hear of Americans here in Berlin who are getting the pass too by showing their American vaccination documents and a proof of residence in Germany. Meaning: the system is solid, but surprisingly flexible.


The danish version is called "Smittestop", which roughly translates to "Stop the infection".

It has cost 4.3M euros and have detected 76.115 people, which amounts to 420 DKK or 56 euros per person.

To me that sounds quite expensive and not like a success.

Link in Danish:

https://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE13057409/sundhedsminis...


So you want to translate this into how much infections it _prevented_ and then compare it against the cost of a COVID-19 infection for society.

I don’t have the numbers but my gut feeling says that 56€ is a bargain.


Perhaps it is, but keep in mind that the official count of infected is around 300.000, so 25% of that was detected by the app.

If the number of infections that were not detected are double the 300.000, then we are fast approaching 10% of all infections detected.

But anyway Denmark spend 60 times the budget for the app on testing each month in 2021, so it's pennies the app has cost.

But i still think it worthwhile to know what the taxpayers get for their money.


> So you want to translate this into how much infections it _prevented_ and then compare it against the cost of a COVID-19 infection for society.

By that logic, we should start selling hand sanitizer for 100 euros, and soap for 50 euros, right?

Obviously the idea that something should not be evaluated by how efficiently was produced but solely by how much it was needed is a recipe for absolute disaster and cost bloat. Seat belts will go for 10,000 euros in that world.


How do decide what is cheap bs expensive for early detection? Sure it “sounds” expensive but it would be cheaper if there were more detections, which you don’t really want.


As an Italian, this is reassuring :D



This is included in https://github.com/eu-digital-green-certificates/dgc-partici..., in that context as an example it does make some sense.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: