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What do you mean by "the new segregationists" and "genderisation of everything"? Are people stomping in and replacing gender-neutral workplace restrooms with separate ones for specific genders? Is racial (or otherwise) segregation being put in place at your place of work? Are gender-neutral pronouns like "they" being replaced in company prose with "he" or "she"?


I assume that the previous poster sees “new segregationism” in the following behaviours:

* The de-nuancing of race by reverting to “white” vs “black” and sidelining all other “races”.

* The redefinition of racism to be exclusively something that “white” people do to “black” people.

* The rollback of cultural integration goals by ringfencing certain behaviours as either “black” or “white”, with any cross-pollination being branded “appropriation”.

* Elevating race as the primary lens through which all society should be viewed, thus abandoning the project of emphasising the content of our hearts and not the color of our skin.

I assume that the previous poster sees “genderisation” in the following behaviours:

* Confusing sex and gender, to the detriment of sex and with the aim of establishing the primacy of gender in all respects - legal, interpersonal and medical.

* Re-establishment of gender norms as the definition of identity, rolling back progress in challenging gender stereotypes.


I would say new segregationism is specifically the third and fourth points.

Only black women are allowed to date black rappers: https://hiphopwired.com/playlist/bobby-shmurda-girlfriend-tw...

Only black translators being allowed to translate the work of black writers: https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/amanda-gorman-catalan-...

Only black people are allowed to have a particular hairstyle on their Animal Crossing characters: https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/01/28/nintendo-allegedly...

I should say that as far as i can tell, this sort of belief is extremely fringe. The nature of the world today is that a handful of people can get loud on Twitter and get a lot of attention for it.


Reminds me of a friend (a white woman) who was wearing dreadlocks for a period of time (she loved reggae music and everything associated with it). She was abused by black people who didn't like she "appropriated" "their" hair style and she was abused by white supremacists for "promoting" other races. She ended up shaving her head after a couple of incidents.


yes, this represent progresive activist learning lesson from group like KKK. what was the KKK strategy? burn crosses, hold hostile marches, lynch people for to intimidate beyond their numbers. what is progresive strategy? yell on twiter to get persons fired/canceled beyond their numbers. obviously there is not lynching or equivalent here: become incresingly loud to ocupy mindshare past number of people behind the cause.


This is a very detailed and informative reply, thanks. I don't know how I could arrived at it just based on the terms they used to describe it.


I'd consider myself on the left, progressive etc, concerned about issues of discrimination. But hear hear, the four points you make regarding 'new segregationism' are very, very familiar and I'm truly concerned about it.

In effect it's led me away from the political bloc I tend to vote alongside, because the tone of the discourse is polarising and often reductive. I don't want to be affiliated with it, nor do I want to participate in it.

At the same time, I have even less with the centre right parties, many of whom are entirely satisfied with ignoring or belittling genuine issues and their own partial culpability. And I feel the 'new segregationism' from the left is in large part a reaction to their belief in the right's insistence to see white supremacy (not in the nazi sense, but just in the political sense that white's socioeconomic positions should remain elevated) as the default, just look at the Trump era. It's really hard to seek cooperation with the other side anymore, and in large part I can't say they're wrong either.




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