And that limit is do insanely high that to consider that a limit is not useful for anything except pedantry.

The air you breath is limited but the limit is so insanely high you don't have to pay a dime for it.

You pay for energy. So just how high is the limit practically speaking? Think about it. It'd be pedantry if I argued with you over oxygen, but Energy is nowhere near as seemingly limitless as oxygen.

So what is the origin and why did it result in the beauty that is the universe? Surely it could have kept all that energy for itself.

Keep in mind this conversation began because someone said "America has won too much".

I didn’t read that. I was simply responding to the someone saying the economy was not zero sum and saying that, that specific statement is categorically wrong.

The origin of energy in the universe is not known and the beauty of the universe is your opinion and not relevant to this conversation.

There are several things about energy that are always true as far as we know:

1. We cannot created or destroy it.

2. There seems to be a fixed amount of energy in the universe.

3. As energy rises in entropy either through inevitably or usage it becomes unusable to us. You can heat your room with a heater but you can never recapture that heat to reheat your room again. Therefore “available energy” is limited.

All of my statements can be derived from the “axioms” above. Concepts like beauty or the origin of energy is not derivable from anything we currently know.

> I didn’t read that.

Context is relevant.

Not in this case. I'm right. You're wrong. Context doesn't effect the outcome.