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> How does apple becomes your hero when they are selling the same thing ?

Because he values image over substance, and his personal identity is tied to Apple.

One thing about my Grado, Audeze, etc. I can repair them. I've had the same pairs for years, used day in and out, and when I wear them out I can buy new parts and easily fix them. I don't need to go to a "Genius" or have to spudge them apart and not have them ever fit right again.



> Because he values image over substance, and his personal identity is tied to Apple.

This is a great example from yesterdays conversation where anti-apple people are more passionate with their hate than apple fans with their love.

If I had $500 laying around and I wanted a pair of over ear headphones these would be on my shortlist. Not because of image, but without trying them I can say they probably sound great, and will pair/move between my Apple devices with ease. The w1 chip is a game changer if you have multiple apple devices.


But is Apple your hero?


No. And all those headphones are not my villains. They are just different products making different trade offs.


Oh c'mon. Apple products tend to be long lasting, are incredibly easy to use, don't malfunction, have a good design aesthetic and are a good addition to an already existing suite of Apple products. Suggesting that he values image over substance seems unnecessary.


> don't malfunction

I love my AirPod Pros, but the right bud is “crackling” again. It’s the third one I’ve had, and seems to be a design issue.

So far, they’ve replaced them.


Glad to know they've replaced them.

What I meant was the rate at which they malfunction seems to be lower than Sony/Senheiser counterparts. Admittedly this is purely anecdotal with the sample size being about 20 people.

With the exception of an ipod touch I have never bought an Apple product, however I definitely appreciate them. I was simply trying to push back on the "image over substance" comment.


If you've needed multiple replacements, might they give you a refund? Some states have "lemon laws" about this.


As someone with the same issue (including multiple replacements).. I don't want a refund. I just want working ones. I really wish they'd fix whatever manufacturing defect is causing this.


It's frustrating. My airpods pro had an issue where they'd make a crackling sound with every step I take (but were fine when sitting). Apple replaced them in warranty and it's been fine since, but they now have a replacement program for these out of warranty as well.

I hope they're doing diagnostics on defective airpods they receive from customers.


yeah, same experience. they start crackling a bit when I talk loudly. then crackling when I talk at all. then eventually crackling whenever I move.


Endlessly fucking around with your equipment, priding yourself on replacing a $20 extended warranty with a $40 soldering iron, two hours of your time, and three deep breaths of mercury is just as much an "identity" as enjoying Apple products.

And considering the total numbers doing either of these two things, I believe the tinkerers have far more need to tell everyone about it than the "fanboys".


Wait, are you talking about de-soldering with mercury? That sounds...uncommon and ill-advised. I've seen a brand mercury that makes electronics products(?), but doesn't seem to quite fit the context.

I mean, a soldering iron isn't exactly disposable. I can see how the audiophile crowd could grind gears. But while fiddling around with something can certainly be more trouble than it's worth, basically repair shaming seems like a bizarre take. At that point it's as much an electronics hobby.

In the bad old days of computers, there were certainly more problems you had to solve with an iron. Hell, if you've had a busted cap on a gpu or mobo past warranty, there's still problems that do.

I don't know, I just find it difficult, that on this kind of software-dev focused forum, that I can discourage the hacker spirit anywhere it grows.


You're assuming a lot about the person you're talking about.

Some people will probably buy these for the image, some because they work well with Apple products, some because ??. But you don't know what he values or who he is personally. Why be so toxic?


Apple is his “hero.” As if they cured cancer.




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