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https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/technology/nsa-is-mining-...

"In partnership with the British agency known as Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ, the N.S.A. has apparently taken advantage of the vast amounts of data stored in and traveling among global data centers, which run all modern online computing, according to a report Wednesday by The Washington Post. N.S.A. collection activities abroad face fewer legal restrictions and less oversight than its actions in the United States."

Note there's a fair amount of speculation on the specific details of how and what data is collected and shared.



This source doesn't remotely support what you said, in fact it explicitly contradicts it;

> "pushed back against the notion that it was collecting abroad to “get around” legal limits imposed by domestic surveillance laws"


There's been public claims about it, and honestly thinking that they wouldnt do it once they have the power to seems naive?

https://www.zdnet.com/article/thatcher-ordered-echelon-surve... > Ex-spy Mike Frost told the CBS 60 Minutes programme that Thatcher had ordered surveillance on two cabinet colleagues according to excerpts released on Thursday. The allegation comes in the same week that a European Parliament report said Echelon, a surveillance system run by the United States, Canada, Britain, Australia and New Zealand, was used for industrial espionage.


"pushed back"? Like how the director of the NSA "pushed back" on congressional questions of whether the NSA was broadly collecting any data from American citizens?


Don't forget that Snowden leaks revealed that there is a huge open sharing pipe directly with Israel.

I can't recall the details - Ill have to go look it up again, but apparently Israel gets more data than any of the others, IIRC.


Source?

When someone says something about mysterious unseen evil activities and Israel it raises my conspiracy theory detector to yellow alert



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Is asking for a link to the source shilling now?


No, the asking for. Link was fine, as i stated in my op, i was going to find a source...

It was the “when israel gets called out” bullshit - and then looking at their post history.

Thats a shill account 100%


Do you have a link that speaks to the original comment or not?


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> Conspiracy denotes that something is hidden

No it doesn't (at least not to me or the dictionary). Conspiracy denotes two or more people planning with each other to commit illegal, wrongful, or subversive acts. Whether or not it's hidden doesn't enter into it.


A lot of people are talking about a state of apartheid in Israel, lets not throw every theory in the corner of anti-Semitism. And to be crystal clear I'm saying this from a POV coming from Jewish heritage.


Not "more data than any of the others" - just a specific kind of access that usually comes with much closer intelligence relationships (e.g. Five Eyes), rather than the more wary relationship the Israeli and US intelligence communities generally have with each other.




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