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> In many (most) cases any IP you create does belong to them.

Why do Americans consider themselves free?



Because they are free to choose to not work for a company that has such an IP clause in its employee contract. They are also free to negotiate a change to that clause.


Theoretically. Not everyone has the liberty to change jobs at will and be fine.


Ah yes, the choice of working or not working.


I choose to live on the street and not pay my wages via tribute to usurers! I'm free! (no loitering).


It can be the same thing in Europe, at least the contracts I've seen say so.


Just because it's there in the contract doesn't mean it's legal.

I'm not sure which European country you are referring to, but as a German I'd look at you funny if you had the audacity to put something like that in an employment contract (but honestly, I very strongly doubt any employer would do so in the first place).


In the UK I've signed a few employment contracts with such clauses, that If I produce something outside of working hours the company still owns it.

I signed the contracts anyway assuming that most likely the company would not be interested in what I created outside working hours (or even know of it) and that they would only get interested if it becamse really successful, in which case I would probably have the means to defend it.


> Just because it's there in the contract doesn't mean it's legal.

No, but should be likely that it is, right? Not worth the risk to put such clauses in there otherwise. And I was talking about the UK.


This is rampant in Europe too.


Some of us don’t.


it's the same in UK, EU and Australian law.


No it is not.

In Germany, you need to make a new contract with explicit payment

https://www.urheberrecht-leipzig.de/urheberrecht-nutzungsrec...


my bad, I haven't checked Germany. I stand corrected. Just UK and Australia then.


This comment is unnecessarily antagonistic. The government here doesn't intrude as much on private employment contracts as in Europe. Maybe as a result the salaries in the US are much higher and unemployment rate over time also much lower.


> intrude as much on private employment

Is the state 'intruding' when they preserve your other rights?


and mortality is increasing again. geez, what a great country to live in!


Freedom includes the freedom to make bad decisions.




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