Nobody is surprised about Foxconn breaking any kind of law. I worked with them directly at a customs agency's software department. During our 6 month integration project, Foxconn caused the resignation of one senior developer and one software specialist. They basically wanted to use our systems to store their private data and gradually demanded that we act like their entire ERP "OR NO DEAL". We ended up finally standing our ground and only did customs integrations and they built an actual IT team instead of using us as their own IT team.
It's not just Foxconn, I have friends in China that work with Chinese tech companies and they're pretty much all the same. They'll squeeze every last inch of advantage they can get out of any business deal and push things right up to, or beyond the brink of a breakdown in relations. It's utterly cutthroat.
I have family over there as well, my wife is Chinese, but those connections are up north. She has an uncle who was a mining company executive, I can't talk about him it's too dangerous. Really.
Here in Australia I've heard people complain about selling houses to the Chinese (I believe mainlanders), where they would buy the property but before handing over the money they would drag their feet and demand repairs, additions etc to the house.
Most people would give in since they would be in the middle of purchasing a new house and needed the money right then, and going through court or whatever would take too long.
Um, how is that odd? Demanding various repairs prior to closing on a house is very common in the US as well. Anyone handing over $100's of thousands or millions for a house would want any problems repaired prior to closing the deal. And to rely on the promises to fix it as soon as the buyer pays for the house is simply laughable.
I find it hard to believe, to be honest.
Aren't there any ways in Australia to make selling of a house "atomic", with ownership transferred the same moment the money are transferred? Or they just move there without having ownership?
I have no comment on the prevalence of this behavior, but I don't think it would be impossible. There's multiple levels of agreement (offer, purchase and sale, closing), many of which are conditional, and if a buyer backs out late in the process it can put your property back on the market for a long time and lower its price due to real estate magic, plus you could lose the new property. Selling my home to buy another while holding a full time job while my real furniture was in storage and replaced by staged furniture was one of the most exhausting things I've ever done in my life.
>if a buyer backs out late in the process it can put your property back on the market for a long time and lower its price due to real estate magic, plus you could lose the new property
Hopefully one would be able to sue and reclaim the costs of the renovations afterwards. But I have little knowledge in that area, especially in Australia. I was only commenting on how the situation was not atomic and how such a scam could happen in the first place.
How would you make it "atomic", unless you have a cash deal; which is rare and likely nets you a worse price (at least in the US).
In NY, the standard is roughly that after signing a contract the buyer writes a check for 10% of the purchase price to the seller's attorney in escrow. This is typically done after a home inspection, but you still have mortgage and potentially other contingencies. If the buyer backs out for a reason not stipulated in the contract, the seller is entitled to the 10% escrow as damages - but that is not going to happen without litigation. If the seller tries to back out, the buyer will have a lien on the property.
Every state and every transaction can be different, but once you get far enough along, it is generally in your interest to have the deal close. If not, you're going to start a months long process pretty much from scratch.
Someone asking for an addition though would be well beyond what is reasonable; and I can't imagine any seller actually agreeing to that.
In Europe we have laws that make it atomic in effect. The money the contract is signed, the deal is closed, the ownership transfer is made and the money is owed and can be demanded through the justice system if the other party doesn't pay up. Having evidence of the state of the house during the signing of the contract (ideally attached to the contract itself) is enough.
FWIW I heard that Apple FTEs are also expected to be reachable all kinds of hours. Those who try to have some sense of life outside work get dinged in ratings. If this is how Apple treats its employees why would they care about some overtime at Foxconn?
While it's possible that there are specific positions where this is a requirement, it is absolutely not a general requirement in SWE (Apple's Software Engineering group).
