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Jordan B. Peterson writes in “12 Rules for Life - an antidote to chaos” that you should “compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today”


Make it your aim to live your whole life without listening to Jordan B. Peterson


Why? Is that quote bad advice?


Perhaps he should take his own excellent advice, and compare himself to who he was when he threatened to slap Pankaj Mishra.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/jordan...

>Why is Jordan Peterson so angry? For someone whose whole routine is based on telling men to “toughen up”, the clinical psychologist and author of the bestseller 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, who rose to prominence in the UK after his run-in with Cathy Newman on Channel 4, seems to unravel at the slightest provocation. After a brutal but perfectly polite and clinical takedown in the New York Review of Books by Pankaj Mishra, where the rudest thing said about Peterson is that his latest book is packaged for people who have grown up on BuzzFeed listicles, Peterson had a meltdown. He called Mishra a “sanctimonious prick”, an “arrogant racist son of a bitch”, said he would “slap him” if he was in the room, and rounded it up with a final “fuck you”. Somewhere along the tantrum, he tweeted that Mishra was a “dealer in lies and half-truths”. The responses that followed can only be summarised as a mass sideways look to camera.

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/19/jordan-peterson-and...

>Jordan Peterson & Fascist Mysticism, by Pankaj Mishra.

>Closer examination, however, reveals Peterson’s ageless insights as a typical, if not archetypal, product of our own times: right-wing pieties seductively mythologized for our current lost generations.


I am not a fan, and indeed, I would have preferred never to have heard of the canadian psychotherapist with lots of snake oil to sell.

That being said, giving yourself the job of "going after" someone, hoarding any and all embarrassing public speeches and having people judge him using just that concentrated negativity you've managed to scrape off the walls, isn't that a little bit like the kind of envy this very thread is concerned with?


Doesn't envy require me wanting to be like him?


Running successful business with multiple campaign fronts and ambitious product ideas? That's worthy my envy. Maybe you don't care.


Speak for yourself. You must be envious of a whole lot of shady people if your bar is so low. I don't even know how you keep track of them all, let alone prevent all that envy from eating you up inside! I've got much better things to do with my time and aspirations and stomach lining.

(By the way, every wanna-be Instagram/YouTube/Twitter influencer has "multiple campaign fronts". And "ambitious product ideas" are a dime a dozen and worse than worthless. They distract you from practical product execution.)

Maybe you too should take his excellent advice and "compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today", instead of envying him.


The same Jordan B Peterson who asked "Is it possible that young women are so outraged because they are craving infant contact in a society that makes that very difficult?" -Jordan Peterson, infant craver

Who denies women have been systematically oppressed: "The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory." -Jordan Peterson, history understander

Who claims to be a champion free speech, yet has sued and threatened several of his critics?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

>Peterson additionally threatened to file a defamation lawsuit against Kate Manne, who accused him of misogyny in a critical book review of 12 Rules for Life. [212] Following a negative book review of 12 Rules for Life in the New York Times by Pankaj Mishra, Peterson called Mishra an "arrogant racist son of a bitch" and threatened to "slap" Mishra should they ever meet in person.[213]

[212] https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/jordan-peterson-threatened-to...

[213] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/jordan...


Can you please not take HN threads further into flamewar?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


>The same Jordan B Peterson who asked ...

sure. I'm no big fan, but don't color good advice bad when it comes from the wrong person.

All his quote is advocating for is self-reference and relativity with regards to self improvement.

It's sort of like quoting Mark Twain. 4/5 people will enjoy the quote, that last person will bring up what a tyrannical bigoted racist he was. (opinion theirs)

The reality is that people who aren't necessarily great themselves can bring wisdom to our attention. Just because it was THEM that had the idea, or at least the ability to bring that idea to words, doesn't invalidate the idea.


I didn't reject his advice -- just the opposite: I endorsed it. Notice that in my reply to the question "Is that quote bad advice?", I gave him due credit for his "excellent advice", and helpfully suggested he follow it himself.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20437177

I'm not even suggesting you "live your whole life without listening to" him -- just the opposite: I actually quoted his own words, and linked to more quotes and information about him, in case some people hadn't already heard them.

And no, I don't envy him, nor do I want to be like him, nor do I even want to physically assault him by slapping him, like he wants to slap Pankaj Mishra.

Maybe we should all take his other sagely timeless advice and "toughen up", and not be as thin skinned and prone to unraveling and throwing tantrums as he is, or threatening lawsuits and physical violence in response to legitimate criticism, huh?




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