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> The US plays "fairly" in international relations? Honestly amazed if anyone truly stands by that statement.

If you consider how much power the U.S. has and how often it does not use that power to its fullest advantage, it's pretty remarkable how much it holds back.



Not being as evil as they possibly could is not really good.


There are dozens of countries murdering their own citizens. The US is not nearly as much as problem as people want to make it seem and Pax Americana has led to almost a century without major worldwide war.


The death sentence is the same thing, just with more decoration.


You mean criminals tried, found guilty, lost all appeals, and sentenced to death? This is not the same thing as countries killing their own innocent citizens.


Yes. Many have been wrongly sentenced in spite of all those decorations.


There's a massive difference between wrongly-fully sentenced inmates and countries that kill innocents through authoritarian means. It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise.


There are similarities too.


Which are overshadowed by the differences. North Korea and the United States are not the same, but you already know this.


They are not overshadowed because life is not a commodity bartered according to rules of law. Once you take a life there is no restitution. Life is not a transaction: it is destiny, and it is above the law.

Rules and reasons for why killing is okay are therefore all equally wrong.


This is a religious stance and not how the world actually works, nor does it have anything to do with the previous discussion of the relative moralities and freedoms of countries. Since you think North Korea is the same as the US, there's nothing further to discuss here.


It is not religious. For now it is a fact that death is permanent.


I suppose Euthanasia is wrong in your book too?


No, you're wrong.


> There are dozens of countries murdering their own citizens.

I assume you're including the US in this, too.


In what way?


I don't think they're holding back so much as the Pax Americana system is the most profitable for them. They aren't powerful enough to choke the whole world, nor would they even want to.


This is actually a fair call. It could be far far worse. Still reasonable to complain about as a Western citizen barely affected if not benefiting from it.




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