First, sorry for being rude. I could have phrased that better.
> About the bus issue, I can perceive a bus coming "for free", but not whether it's my bus. I live in a big city, and it's normal for 10 or so unrelated busses to pass by.
I live in a big(-ish, SF is only ~50 square miles) city, but I still can't relate personally to what you seem to me to be describing. I catch the bus a lot, and I like to read books while doing it, and I can and do maintain awareness of my surroundings and the people and vehicles and whatnot around me. I feel it's a matter of common courtesy. It's rude and a little dangerous to enter into a deep trance in a public space like a bus stop, in my opinion.
> And if someone really focuses so hard that they would not perceive a bus, would you really dismiss it as their own issue? What if it's a book rather than a phone? What if it's their child?
So, yes, in the context of a bus stop, while waiting for a bus, if one is so into one's personal whatever that one is surprised by the bus arriving, and this happens all the time, then, to me, it seems like one might have some sort of attention problem.
Look I'm all for software making the world a better place. That is literally my job and lifelong goal. I think you chose some bad examples. I want the robots to do the work and we all get on with Star Trek and sh-stuff. I'm into it. I just want the goddamned robots to work well. As it is now we have guns that shoot their own side, self-driving cars that run people over, IoT that I can't even, etc... and e.g. Mr. & Mrs. tractor-"owners" can't fix their own tractors anymore because there are computers in them now. WTF?
If you want to continue talking about this can we talk about Elm-lang vs JS? I'm not trying to pick on you personally, I'm wound up about the state of the industry.
> About the bus issue, I can perceive a bus coming "for free", but not whether it's my bus. I live in a big city, and it's normal for 10 or so unrelated busses to pass by.
I live in a big(-ish, SF is only ~50 square miles) city, but I still can't relate personally to what you seem to me to be describing. I catch the bus a lot, and I like to read books while doing it, and I can and do maintain awareness of my surroundings and the people and vehicles and whatnot around me. I feel it's a matter of common courtesy. It's rude and a little dangerous to enter into a deep trance in a public space like a bus stop, in my opinion.
> And if someone really focuses so hard that they would not perceive a bus, would you really dismiss it as their own issue? What if it's a book rather than a phone? What if it's their child?
So, yes, in the context of a bus stop, while waiting for a bus, if one is so into one's personal whatever that one is surprised by the bus arriving, and this happens all the time, then, to me, it seems like one might have some sort of attention problem.
Look I'm all for software making the world a better place. That is literally my job and lifelong goal. I think you chose some bad examples. I want the robots to do the work and we all get on with Star Trek and sh-stuff. I'm into it. I just want the goddamned robots to work well. As it is now we have guns that shoot their own side, self-driving cars that run people over, IoT that I can't even, etc... and e.g. Mr. & Mrs. tractor-"owners" can't fix their own tractors anymore because there are computers in them now. WTF?
If you want to continue talking about this can we talk about Elm-lang vs JS? I'm not trying to pick on you personally, I'm wound up about the state of the industry.