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Great stuff to wake up to.

We've got five affected accounts.

So far the G-Suite experience has been underwhelming to say the least. Crap interface and less fine grained control over document access than even Google drive offers for free, gmail UI just plain sucks over IMAP and so on.

And now this. As much as there is to like about this email in terms of transparency it is also very interesting for what it does not say: Apparently they can't determine with certainty whether or not the accounts were accessed.

"legacy functionality that enabled customer Domain Admins to view password"

That functionality should have never existed to begin with.

"primarily impacted system generated or admin generated passwords intended for one-time use"

Note the weasel word 'primarily', either it did or it did not potentially affect all passwords.

"We have reviewed the login information for the account(s) and have found no evidence that the unhashed passwords were misused."

No evidence does not mean it did not happen, so there apparently is a chance that even if they did not find evidence that it did happen and that their audit trails for reviewing that log data are not such that they can guarantee that nobody had access to it or viewed it.

"an internal system that logged account signup information for diagnostic purposes, also inadvertently logged the administrator’s account password in our encrypted systems in an unhashed format."

This suggests some pretty major process failures, this change was apparently found after it had already been pushed to production without review or with a review that did not catch this pretty basic mistake.

Having the best security team in the world is great but if you then have stuff like this happening you have to wonder about the processes around deployment, which are just as important as having a great security team to begin with.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, a small company is better off relying on the likes of Google for their secure storage of mail and documents, but at the same time that's also not perfect and apparently includes some random strangers potentially having access to all of that which is something that never happened to us in the last decade or so to the best of my knowledge.



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