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Colonialism? Western exploitation? Really? I do not think that this was necessarily a smart or moral choice by the US's part, but I guess they know more about the issue than I do, based on which this action was made.

But I am curious how you can draw a line between alleged espionage accusations and the need for the US to secure its own telecommunications networks by forcing out a possibly hostile actor and colonialism? Protectionism yes, but not colonialism. It really irritates me when people start extrapolating hyperboles based on their own emotions of how things are, with logical reasoning only an afterthought to validate their raging desire to feel certain way about something. The platform for doing that is Twitter or Facebook, not HackerNews.



Enough with repeating the official propaganda of "espionnage", etc. This is a transparent pretext.

The real issue is the US facing the end of their status of top dog with the rise of a superpower that does not answer to them (which is an emotive subject).

It's no hyperbole to state that they are fighting for their empire and resorting to gunboat diplomacy. Nothing less, nothing more.

This is an extremely sensitive, and indeed emotive, topic in China. People should really realise the level of anger and long term effects this can only have in China. Amd for what? Short term feeling of power for US...


Perhaps so, and as my emotional input I'd still rather have a bad-democracy ruling over the world as supposed to a totalitarian state. Actually I even prefer China losing influence on global scale, what do you have to say about that? Yet I still don't resort to over-extrapolation or forming my opinions based on how I feel about the subject. My personal values do have a play on how I view the world, but I try to be as unbiased about them as possible.

But I am curious how do you know so deeply Chinese emotional landscape? This is a part of US's economical and political push-back against growing Chinese influence, which you assume makes Chinese feel insulted? Sounds pretty childish, that people would get such a strong feeling of hurt-pride when the cause is purely a political power-play, and not at all a snub at China's technological or other capabilities. On the contrary, I think this flatters China that US fears Chinese influence so much that they feel this is a necessary action for them to take.


Childish? Mobs of people regarding politics? You don't say.

I mean, would you say the US body politic has been acting particularly adult lately?

Trump has painted himself into a corner with all the trade war stuff, the only move he knows is escalation, and this is obviously a dumb idea.

Chinese companies are big enough to fork Android, and now they're supremely motivated even if this were reversed tomorrow.

One more bit of influence down the drain.


Can't argue with that, but I felt the original author I replied to took it way too personally. US politics is a joke of a democracy and more so now that they have elected a true buffoon as their president. I would argue as a nation, Trump was one of the worst options they could have picked, but since they have long since descended into tribality and unsound rhetoric I guess that's their equilibrium (with Russian aid or not).

While I think the original idea of fighting Chinese influence is a relevant point and much in the US's interest, it seems a little rash and foolish to extend that animosity on Huawei's ability to use Google Android. Like, seriously. If they are not using Android, they'll be using something else which will, with high probably, be not American. Oh well, not my headache.


The US are conducting themselves like a "rogue state" that they like accusing others of being.

People should accept that and that being the rhetoric nothing has changed since 200 years.

Clearly this requires to challenge one's belief, judging by the comments.




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