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Just a Drop in the Bucket (1994) (milk.com)
145 points by gwbas1c on March 20, 2019 | hide | past | favorite | 23 comments


I enjoyed the story of a giant grease fire that could have been. Though, I was curious as to why milk.com was owned by a computer company, and not, say a milk company or organization. I read the explanation[0] and enjoyed it as well.

[0] https://milk.com/value/


The owner behind the website has also cataloged some of his correspondence with people who failed to realize milk.com was not dairy-related[0], some of which are very entertaining.

[0] https://milk.com/experiments/


I used to have microsoft@<isp> as an email address, and would occasionally get complaints about blue screens or other Windows related issues. People did not know how email worked in that time.


I really enjoyed reading those actually.

Some are funny, but it shows how 'trusting' some people are. It seems like mailing is a kind of harmless game (they actually shared addresses with strangers).

I hope/think most people are more cautious nowadays :)


Thanks! Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) the internet has grown up, and it's been a long time since someone has sent bona fide misdirected mail to the site.


The buyer for this domain isn't in the milk business, they're in the technology business. Few names worth US$ 10M or higher, Milk.com is one of them.


You think? It certainly keeps the low-ball speculators away, but if it were to sell do you really think it would get $10MM?


Thanks! It's arguably in need of update, but it still seems to get the job done.


Imagine being so fortunate in life that you can sit on your website for hundreds of thousands, if not millions, simply because you "like the name". That's life changing money for me.


For me too. Yes I am fortunate in multiple regards.


I mean, I really would sell for $10MM. But I think I'd be giving someone a real steal for (much) less. Like, sure, I could use $100,000, but does that mean I should sell a more-valuable asset that I happen to own for that little? If so, why?


To answer that question, ask yourself if you would buy milk.com for $100 000. Probably not, I'd wager. The only reason to not sell is the hope that you might get more for it in the future.


I also wouldn't buy milk.com for $2000. Does that mean I should sell it for $2000?

In any case, there is also a time / hassle reason to not sell: It would mean the loss of the only personal email domain I've used since 1994, and that would make for a _lot_ of updating (and crossing of fingers hoping I didn't miss something important).



Interesting to see how divergent the “urban legend” like version of the story is versus the actual news report.

1) the 1MW transformer was shutdown, but was not the one which got the grease dumped on it (which was a 200KW)

2) there was about a foot of grease, not “completely submerged”

3) they didn’t replace the transformers, just cleaned them.


Yes. I used to live near there. Palo Alto has occasionally struggled with their underground transformer vaults. They make the streets look nice, but they're high maintenance. Many were submerged in the 1998 flood.

The "DEC data center" is of historic importance to the Internet. It's an old telephone company building, and was the home of AltaVista. It's now an Equnix data center, and says "PAIX" (Palo Alto Internet Exchange) on the front. [1]

DEC built the AltaVista search engine as a demo for DEC Alpha 64-bit computers, to show what they could do. Having thousands of identical machines in racks was a new thing then.

Because it was in an old telco building, with high ceilings, high racks, and ceiling cable trays from the electromechanical switching era, AltaVista was built like a telephone central office - tall racks of computers, with the cables overhead. Before this, data centers were usually raised floor construction. This is where telco-like data centers started.

As the "Palo Alto Internet Exchange", around 1996, it was the main peering point for the Internet in Northern California. One of the first big carrier-neutral peering points.

Also, I think the "1MW transformer" for the data center was actually above ground in the alley. It, or a successor, is still there, and you can see it in the aerials, but there's a cinderblock wall in front of it now. It used to be out in the open on a pad.

[1] https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4455915,-122.1611684,3a,31y,...


Given the title and domain, I thought this was going to be about milk going into a bucket, you know, from a cow.



This site made my day, awesome :D


I'm here for you.


I really appreciate you and your site. I am in my 30s now and have enjoyed the weirdness of milk.com since I was a teenager. It is really nice to see a pre-web-2.0 / internet classic site still up and running. It's also great to see it on a domain name like 'milk.com' not being owned by a massive company.


️<3


I remember when this happened!




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