> Now, here’s the issue. We know that things can go too far on the right, and we know that things can go too far on the left. But we don’t know what the markers are for going too far on the left. I would say that it’s ethically incumbent on those who are liberal or left-leaning to identity the markers of pathological extremism on the left and to distinguish themselves from the people who hold those pathological viewpoints — and I don’t see that that’s being done.
I think when sites like Patreon, Twitter, etc. start banning other view points in the name of "social justice" or "political correctness"... all the while being complete hypocrites to their own values... is when the left goes too far.
I wouldn't call that the left, but just that capitalist have found that they can profit more by sharing the values most people in their market share. Most Americans, for instance, are much more progressive on social issues.
It's just faux-activism, which doesn't address the actual system of oppression marginalized groups face.
Extreme leftism is when workers control the means of production and run companies democratically.
really? extreme leftism is pretty clear, it's communism. Saying that communism isn't recognized by most people on the left as "going too far" is pretty hard to believe.
The irony is that you see many people non-ironically touting a hammer and sickle on their profiles on these sites. To me that symbol is as dreadful as the swastika. Both communism and fascism are two sides to the same coin. Horseshoe theory is a real.
If the platforms were concerned about extremism, they would be clamping down on the communists too, who have a human rights record as bad, if not worse than the fascists.
It's extremely reductive to label the ideology of Marx and that of the Nazis as two sides of the same coin.
Yea, planned economies suck and systematic mismanagement can have devastating effects, but you think that is comparable to an ideology of racial cleansing?
You think that the idea of democratic workplaces is the same as the idea of creating a master race? Governments do a lot of awful things, but at their core can you really say the ideas and tenets of communism are the same as Nazism?
It's not ironic that the symbols of communism aren't abhorred the same way as those of fascism, it's just that there's a little more nuance than "anti-capitalism is evil".
To me it only seems that their is a lack of reflection among socialists to acknowledge the utter failures of communism everywhere and every time it has been preached. I believe most conservatives acknowledge the failures of facsism.
I'm not comparing the specific details which differentiate the two ideologies, I'm comparing the traits which make them strikingly similar - the authoritarianism. Whether a commie or a fascist, it is the support of the use of state force to compel others into ones ideology that is the awful trait shared between the two camps.
> Now, here’s the issue. We know that things can go too far on the right, and we know that things can go too far on the left. But we don’t know what the markers are for going too far on the left. I would say that it’s ethically incumbent on those who are liberal or left-leaning to identity the markers of pathological extremism on the left and to distinguish themselves from the people who hold those pathological viewpoints — and I don’t see that that’s being done.
I think when sites like Patreon, Twitter, etc. start banning other view points in the name of "social justice" or "political correctness"... all the while being complete hypocrites to their own values... is when the left goes too far.