Middle east? Are you out of your mind? Have you been in middle east?
I am from middle east and came to Vancouver 5 months ago and I literally want to go back from this hell hole and although grad school does not pay that much, but because I work a lot I get paid alot by my supervisor too, so I am in good financial situation here. (And I’ve been in some middle east and European countries and have great friends from all of those countries. So it is not like I dont know how to talk to people.)
People are not approachable. Long story short, you can search about Seattle freeze. People literally come to bars and night clubs in groups, and leave with their groups. All of my international friends are under extreme extreme pressure from loneliness. Although they don’t have financial problems, but some of them leaving. I am considering to applying to east coast and unfinishing my degree here.
In Middle East you are definitely not alone. You definitely do not make as much as developed nation. But you are not definitely alone. People are generally way more nicer, easy going. Literally yasterday I saw someguy passed out in Skytrain and there was 40,50 people there. You know what they did? literally nothing. At the end I was the one calling 911. (Not that I am a great person or something, i just call, but it was unbelievable how in western society people live their life.)
I’ve only ever been a foreigner in the Middle East. I trust that, like the Bay Area, insiders have their circles. The commonality is the tendency towards privacy clique sociology.
I was just talking today about how "The Seattle Freeze" would be a fantastic name for an NHL team here. Not that I actually believe in the Seattle Freeze, I just think it would be funny.
This is North American culture in a nutshell and I can't say it's much different in Ontario. I can relate to what you say but unless someone is well travelled or has lived in a different culture for a significant period of time it's hard for them to have perspective or realize why people are so ... standoffish.
It's an individualist culture.
All I can say is I hear ya, but you are preaching to the choir. You likely won't get a lot of acknowledgements here.
Come to Scandinavia if you really want to see an individualistic culture. Striking up a single conversation with a stranger is frowned upon. People going to North America always come back saying everyone was so talkative.
Swedish person living in the netherlands for 12 years and i can only agree. Sweden is a emtionally cold country, and even though we have space that looks like it could invite to social behaviour, make no mistake about it, people will assume that you are after something/trying to mug them if you attempt on only being a tad social. I live in Amsterdam now which is a lot more open to chit-chat, but the Dutch live very much for them selves, are so tired of tourists that you really have to speak fluent Dutch to not be cosidered someone they will never see again.
I am from middle east and came to Vancouver 5 months ago and I literally want to go back from this hell hole and although grad school does not pay that much, but because I work a lot I get paid alot by my supervisor too, so I am in good financial situation here. (And I’ve been in some middle east and European countries and have great friends from all of those countries. So it is not like I dont know how to talk to people.)
People are not approachable. Long story short, you can search about Seattle freeze. People literally come to bars and night clubs in groups, and leave with their groups. All of my international friends are under extreme extreme pressure from loneliness. Although they don’t have financial problems, but some of them leaving. I am considering to applying to east coast and unfinishing my degree here.
In Middle East you are definitely not alone. You definitely do not make as much as developed nation. But you are not definitely alone. People are generally way more nicer, easy going. Literally yasterday I saw someguy passed out in Skytrain and there was 40,50 people there. You know what they did? literally nothing. At the end I was the one calling 911. (Not that I am a great person or something, i just call, but it was unbelievable how in western society people live their life.)