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craftyguy · on July 13, 2018

> if it gives me more privacy rights

Meanwhile, microsoft still defaults to collecting/retaining telemetry information from users of their software.

bradford · on July 13, 2018

<disclaimer, MS employee>

I'd like to point out that MS adheres to GDPR regulations and has applied those protections to all users.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-extending-gdp...

craftyguy · on July 14, 2018

OK? But it still defaults to 'collect all the things':

> But users now have access to a privacy dashboard that allows you to easily regulate or opt out of any data collection.

How about microsoft does not collect user data by default and lets them opt in?

zeusk · on July 15, 2018

> > But users now have access to a privacy dashboard that allows you to easily regulate or opt out of any data collection.

> How about microsoft does not collect user data by default and lets them opt in?

A) Not all users are technical enough to understand how telemetry helps developers find faults and better understand crashes/bug reports.

B) "Most" users don't care if data is collected about the software and not the data they put in that software.

C) If you work in tech, I'm sure you know how many people pick options other than default.

chopin · on July 13, 2018

I'd like this to be verifiable. For Windows 10 telemetry it is certainly not.

zeusk · on July 13, 2018

There is a big difference between collecting telemetry (data about the product you're using) for improving the product internally and collecting private data for reselling to the highest bidder.

gaius · on July 13, 2018

Microsoft has to play these games because Google and Facebook do. But if it disappeared overnight MS would still be in business... and they would not.