There are valid points to be made about HN being a bit of a bubble but I'm pretty comfortable pointing out that this is a forum for intellectual honesty and you're really showing none of that. These are tired arguments (ramblings really), to the point where I'm almost convinced you're trolling.
I don't agree with nvahalik in the slightest, but I can't see any signs of intellectual dishonesty, or trolling, either.
Unless you can make a case that your values are objectively more correct than his, you two are just holding two different sets of values.
Of course society has to deal with lot's of different sets of values of lots of people, but we have democracy to accommodate for that. Simply calling people trolls for having different opinions helps nobody.
Lack of intellectual honesty? I'm sorry, was there anything I said that was false? Instead of responding to my list of illustrations all you can do is say that I'm trolling?
It's ironic because I've been thinking of writing a piece on how there are different types of reasoning, from strictly rational to the more empathetic (human?). So I cringed a bit myself writing that, because I feel a lot of HN commenters share a very specific type of "thinking" that only works for a small percent of the population and assume it applies to everyone. I see a lot of failure to empathize here, is what I'm saying.
And yet I still feel comfortable dismissing everything you said. It's not even empathetic or emotional reasoning, it's just delusional and the underling assumptions are completely unfounded. There's a problem for religious thinkers (I've checked your previous comments), which is that they aren't searching for answers, they have answers and need to twist everything else to somehow reach them. So long as you're doing that, almost everyone here is going to see through you right away.
Even if we find ourselves at a fairly fundamental level of disagreement with other community members, it's important not to let that cross into personal incivility, which this comment at least verges on.
