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It is awesome! I've been in Shenzhen with my startup for a year now and its great.., I want to stay here forever. Apart from the slow internet through the VPN, weird but interesting food and the language barrier, its a very exciting and prosperous country to be in. Foreigners here are treated equally and sometimes treated way better than they deserve!!

Regarding jobs, there are plenty, but it depends which province/city you want to be in. Maybe not as highly paid as the US but there are definitely a lot of cool, innovative, new and weird ideas and concepts that you won't see anywhere in the world! I ask my Chinese friends what's the latest cool things you can do with your phone and they always have these weird apps that maybe in 5 years facebook or youtube will have.

For US citizens its pretty easy to get a visa, apart from the invitation letter crap, you get like a 10 year multi-entry. Us europeans have a harder time to get a 1 year one but not that bad in general :)

It is a bit of a shock the first time you come here and sometimes 2-4 weeks might not be enough to love this place, but after a while you develop a sort of stockholmy syndrome and all is good!

Hope it helps!



US citizens have the same yearly working visa renewal as everyone else. The 10 year visa applies only to tourism and each stay is limited to 90 days or so.


Yes you are right! I've seen many small companies here use the "M" or even the non-business "F" (catch-all) visa and that visa was issued with the full knowledge of the locals here. No idea about other cities, SZ is in the special economic zone so some rules are more "relaxed".

Regarding the entries, yes you need to go in and out every 30-90 days unfortunately.


Very few places in the world pay as much as Silicon Valley, so I'm curious if your comparison with 'the US' is tech jobs in SF/NYC or tech jobs in normal places (i.e. 'not as highly paid' could mean 'only' $100k/yr for a devops position).


Sorry for the vagueness. SF/NYC is indeed the extreme, from what i've seen, a mid-experienced programmer (Backend , embedded C), 3-4 years in industry, might get something like 150K yuan on average, and up to 250K yuan if you are a jedi, per year.. Which is around 20-40k USD. So quite low in general.


What does your startup do, if you don't mind my asking?


We do an agriculture sensor.. We are called Pycno :)




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