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Museum of Soviet arcade machines (15kop.ru)
90 points by tosseraccount on May 20, 2016 | hide | past | favorite | 40 comments


Oh I remember those! Nice.

With the obligatory soda machine. They had a regular glass (made from glass, not disposable). Pushed it upside-down in this washer valve which sprayed water on the inside of it. So you "washed it". Then you put coin in, forgot how many kopeyks for regular fizzy water, it cost more to add syrup. Then the person behind you used that same glass, and so on.

Today I'd think it is crazy unsanitary, and would never drink out of it.

In the summer, throughout the city they also had large yellow barrels on two wheels with kvas (this fermented drink made from bread). Also with reusable glasses which the seller would quickly rinse with water before handing it to you. That was the best thing on a hot summer day.


It was 1 kopek for regular, 3 kopeks with syrup. Roughly equivalent to $3 and $9 in today's US dollars if calculated proportionally to median income. Prices are shown in one of the pictures, btw: http://gazirovka.15kop.ru/gallery/#10

PS. There's much more info about soda machines in Russian version, and lots of cool graphics too:

http://gazirovka.15kop.ru/machines/ (scrolls horizontally, in case you haven't noticed)

http://gazirovka.15kop.ru/history/

http://gazirovka.15kop.ru/glass/


So wait, that means USSR had no coin valued at less than today's $1.5 by purchasing power (assuming the 1/2 kopek coin existed at the time)? Interesting.


It's complicated. Comparisons based on median income are inherently flawed due the radical differences in regimes (let's start from free education and housing).

Let's compare it using market tools. The black market exchange rate was about 5 roubles for one US dollar in late USSR (official rate was about 60 cents for one rouble, but you had to be an elite to use it, and even then, in very small amounts) - you get up to death toll if they catch you with dollars, but that's another story.

So 1 kopeyks in USSR was about 0.2 cents, and inflation calculator will tell you that would be about 0.6 cents in current value.


No, it means that nobody had more than $300 on the hands officially. I.e. they were poor (except "nomenclature" and "valuable people").


The highest official salary was about 1200 roubles a month - two people had this salary, Prime Minister and President of USSR Academy of Sciences. Nevertheless, there were people earning (illegally, of course) tens of millions - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsekhovik


No 1/2 kopeyka coins in USSR, those ("polushka" coins, ~= "halfies") ended in Tsar Russia :)

1 kop. was a small amount of money kids would often play with (you could buy a matchbox with it -- was its standard price!).


Oh man those kvass canisters. So in our area there was an urban legend that once a truck transporting kvass (kind of like a fuel truck) crashed and fell on the side.

Kvass poured out and along with it monstrous worms size of a human leg (nobody ever washes those canisters).

I wonder if that was possible.


Seems like this would be really bad business just from a transportation perspective. Giant worms take up transit space that could be filled with kvass instead.

A quick Google for "giant worms" finds a few that are a couple centimeters in diameter around the world, but none in the vicinity of Russia.


However, there was a pretty well developed culture of urban legends and rumors like that. Then there was no internet, official channels were not trusted and so on. So that made it a nice fertile ground for urban legends.

My uncle even made one up with his friends. They went fishing, got drunk and decided to tell everyone they saw aliens land. They had noticed an area by woods that was burnt by a lightning strike and some fire had started. So that became the landing site. And so on. He made us kids and a few women from the village believe him.

There were national ones of course. My favorite was about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole. The rumor was that the scientists had reached hell (temperature increased dramatically, which it did in reality, see! every legends needs a tiny bit of truth there), and there was, of course, a red monster which crawled out from the whole. I really loved that story as a kid.

There were countless others which I already forgot.


I saw that story retold in a fundamental Christian news paper back in the day... fine trolling.



Yep. this is it.


The hotel I was staying at in Moscow in '92 had "Snaiper-2". I really liked it. Sure, it's a basic target-shooting game, but it's entirely electromechanical and it had a lens in the sight that made the target seem like it was further away.


They just talked about this on the latest episode of the Idle Thumbs podcast! The podcaster's favorite was one with a mechanical car that drove on top of a video.

https://www.idlethumbs.net/idlethumbs/episodes/disable-enemi...


I've been to the one in Saint-Petersburg. Probably worth a visit, but do expect most machines to be under-maintained, and keep you wondering if the game is even receiving your inputs...

Though, I suppose, when those machines were placed in random "palaces of culture" across the USSR in the 70-80s, their state on average wasn't any better.


It was, never played a broken one, I think. Look, they wouldn't be remembered so tenderly, if they were not working well :)


Look at the disassembly photos for Morskoi Boi! It's lovely oily electromechanical stuff. I'd love to have a go.


It's a clone of a U.S. product, Sea Hunter. Same for most of the other Soviet arcades.


Do you know if they run on 6502s and other Western chips of the time? Were they cloned, or imported? Or were there Soviet ISA's?

I remember reading years ago about how Russian computer scientists in the cold war were more honed in algorithm design, because they basically had to squeeze as much as they could out of their processors to compete with faster Western hardware.


Morskoi Boi/Sea Hunter has no computer, or chips for that matter. It's 1960s tech.

Some computer based arcades started to appear in late 1980s, but more like Pong clones and similarly simple "racing" games with 2600-like sprites. At this point the "coops" started popping up, offering pay per minute experience on Atari 800 and ZX Spectrum.

There was no Soviet 6502 or Z80 clone; there were however 8080A clones and DEC LSI-11 inspired designs. There were a bunch of creative programmers sure, although there hardly was a real "school" and CS remained largely backwaters to the West.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U880

> The U880 is an almost identical copy of Zilog's 8-bit Z80 microprocessor.

I wrote my first machine-level programs on that chip (I didn't have an assembler, only a dis-assembler, so I hand-translated the code and then used the dis-assembler to check if I had made typos).


There were Soviet and East German Z80s, Bulgarian 6502s, etc.


If you mean the T34 one, yeah it was in USSR in the sense there was tenderloin in the shops. I.e. we knew the name but I never met anyone who could get hold of it. Even then not sure it was even heard of until 1990s.

Bulgarian 6502s were probably shipped with their Apple II clones. Those were hard to come by.


I've been to the one in Moscow, it was a great time. It reminded me a lot of the Musée Mécanique on the Embarcadero.


A long time ago there was a similar thread. It only got 11 comments, but maybe people are interested. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1668085


There appears to be an app that recreates the Morski Boi! game.

http://www.148apps.com/app/541402297/

This reminds me of the Tetris story: Who exactly would own the various rights to this games?


Why link through 148apps rather than directly to the App Store? https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/morskoi-boi-sea-battle/id541...


Because I googled the term and that's the first result I came across.


Magistral is so unfair. At any moment a blue car can come up from behind and rear-end you, including instantly after you respawn.

Is this by design, a sort of Soviet nihilistic humor?


The pixelated face on 'Magistral' kind of looks like a hipster. Red beanie, big glasses, beard.


Imagine Pacman except with KGB Putin or Stalin chasing nukes


Морской бой! My favorite as a kid while waiting for connecting flights at airports.


Soda machine is the best !


Морской бой was the shit!


Super interesting stuff.


I know where they and actually will probably visit the next time I'm walking past that street ad on the river bank :)


Just rembember to shit in a corner if you do visit.


Please stop posting unsubstantive comments to HN.


Sorry about this. Russia just did what I referred to in my country so I'm a bit emotionally upset.

Sweden is being attacked via the Internet by Russia; see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11740587 for more detals. This is the substantiation.




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